Fleas! Help!!!

Question:
Hi, I am fostering two dogs that came direct from a shelter and I have never have dealt with fleas before!
I gave the dogs a Capstar pill, and I also have Frontline Plus. Earlier, I gave the dogs a bath, not with anything special but with baby shampoo that I had in the house. Only a few fleas came off. They are still inundated.
Once the medications start working, will the fleas "fall" off? Or will they just come off in the bath? Is there a good over the counter flea shampoo that I should buy?
One of the dogs has very dark, scabby/scaly skin in some large areas. Is this from the fleas?
If I give the dogs Frontline this evening, can they have a bath tomorrow?
Any information would really be appreciated!

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Hi,
Call the shelter and ask them for any advice on this matter or ask for their vet's phone number. The shelter should have taken care of the flea situation before you took those poor dogs home with you. I hope the Frontline starts working soon, usually within 10 - 12 hours you will see real results. The shelter must pay you for any money you have expended to get rid of the fleas. If the dogs are in the house you may have a bigger problem, being a flea infestation in the home. You will have to vacuum all the rugs, curtains, furniture thoroughly, then throw the vacuum bag away immediately off your property. All clothing must be washed in hot water with bleach for whites and colors must be washed in hot water and Clorox 2 for colors. Any shelter in my area would have already treated the dogs for fleas before you took them home to foster. How irresponsible of them. Hopefully none of the other animals in this shelter have fleas or else there will be a huge problem down there. Meanwhile, a local pet store may be able to recommend a flea shampoo that will not interfere with the Frontline.

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Whew! Slow down there a little. The capstar should have killed all the fleas in a half an hour. If not it is ok to give another.
It is not necessary to use a special flea shampoo. Any shampoo that produces a good lather will do. You should also use a flea comb. The lather will suffocate them but also comb them out while they are incapacitated in the lather.
Read your directions with the Frontline. You should wait at least 3 days after using to bathe the dog. You have used the capstar & if you used the Frontline do not use any other flea product right away.
As for the skin problem, I would imagine it is from flea allergy & will need to be checked by the vet. He will most likely give you a special shampoo for that.
You will also want to get these guys on a decent food. They could already be anemic from that many fleas. Check their gums - they should be pink, if they are grey or white they are anemic.
Betsy'smom I would have to differ very strongly with you on a couple points. The shelter doesn't HAVE to re-imburse for anything. She didn't say who she is fostering for - shelter or rescue- in any event if there is a fostering agreement or contract that will spell out who pays for what.
There was a recent thread on here discussing just that & by far the fosters are expected to pay for most things as tho it was their dog.
Bleach has nothing to do with fleas - doesn't kill them - and they don't live on clothing anyway. Many shelters not only don't treat for fleas they don't even vaccinate.
Trixie you will have to treat your house tho as the eggs fall off the dogs & will hatch. Be sure to get a product to do the house that says PLUS - that means it will keep the eggs from hatching.

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Buy GARLIC capsuls and give them one with each meal. Also can buy oil of oregano mix 3 drops in two tablespoons of plain yogurt and give daily.
This will boost the dogs immune system preventing infection and allergic reactions as well as prevent multiple bites. Both oregano oil and garlic deter and kill fleas.
Put two drops of oregano oil on the rump and rub in, two drops on the tummy and rub in, two drops on the back of the neck and rub in.
NEVER get in eyes or around the mouth it burns.....if giving oregano oil orally MIX with yogurt.

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Luba how often do you treat on the skin? Never heard of "oil of oragano". Where is that available?

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I'm glad you asked!
You can get it at ANY health food store! Can be given orally and topically.
It's good for a myriad of things really, very good for infections, viruses, anything really.
I'm holistic and eat organic, I do the same for my doggie. She is home cooked for never gets vaccinated and never gets flea or heartworm prevention and I NEVER have a problem. The only problem I ever had was this stick or whatever she swallowed the nutcase the other day.
The vet gave me three prescriptions which are sitting on my counter and she is not getting....has no need for them. Vets like MD's often over prescribe.
I'm really passionate about holistic living for me and my family and that includes Sadie my dog.
The fleas actually STARVE on Sadie, yes the odd one will still jump on her but because of how she eats and what I supplement her with the fleas can't even jump. I find the odd one crawling on her and it's barely alive (no kidding)
I don't put oregano on Sadie every day because she doesn't need it BUT if you have a dog with a lot of fleas or a flea problem I would say yes use it topically every day. Feed garlic capsuls OR add garlic to the dogs food daily as well as oregano oil with some yogurt every day
As for brands, my favourite is St. Francis

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Thanks, I am familiar with the garlic, & of course the brewers yeast (which causes gas) but never heard of the oil. Hrmpg! And I was in the resturant business for 17 years before I got into the sheltering!! You probably don't use any of the Bach Flowrer Remedies then?
Thanks, I am familiar with the garlic, & of course the brewers yeast (which causes gas) but never heard of the oil. Hrmpg! And I was in the resturant business for 17 years before I got into the sheltering!! You probably don't use any of the Bach Flowrer Remedies then?

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It's not the dried oregano as in the seasoning it's OIL OF OREGANO that you can only buy at a health food store..big difference. Not used in cooking but in healing my friend!
I dont' bother with the brewers yeast myself yup gassy and I haven't had to since doing this method..all works really well and I have a collie with LOTS of hair!


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Trixiepup, if you have followed all those excellent suggestions and still find fleas, try not to stress too much. Fleas can live over a month without a meal, so have patience, follow the flea-control procedure you have chosen, and trust that in 2 months every flea will be gone.
Been there, done that several times over several decades.
Luba, I have not found any studies supporting garlic, oregano oil, or yeast as a flea killer or repellent. I'm not saying you are wrong, I just have not found any. Do you know of any sites that point to any studies like that? Thank you! -PrT

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The information I found was at a holistic health food store and not online regarding the oregano oil.
You can do any google search for garlic and fleas and find plenty of info. Sorry I dont have any bookmarked but it is very very easy to find.
Holistic companies sell flea and tick sprays for your cats and dogs and your yard and they are comprised mostly of garlic.
The original oregano oil article I read was about 3 yrs ago, and the artificial was from Greece where the oil was used to fumigate a flea infested town, and it worked.
I've never had any issues since using them both and would prefer this to putting poison on my pets.
See flea medicine is a pesticide, it would be the same as allowing your dog to get sprayed by one of those lawn care guys that spray pesticides....
I don't want that for me, for my dog or my family.

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I searched it out while I did not see stats I did find a few vet websites that had it as a option . Thanks for the information I am going to check into this at the health food store.

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Buy GARLIC capsuls and give them one with each meal. Also can buy oil of oregano mix 3 drops in two tablespoons of plain yogurt and give daily.
This will boost the dogs immune system preventing infection and allergic reactions as well as prevent multiple bites. Both oregano oil and garlic deter and kill fleas.
*Luba.........what mg. of garlic do you give your dogs. The book I have has 500 mg and 100 mg. However, I don't want to give them a toxic amount as garlic can be as toxic as onions if given too much.
Thanks......Vi

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I can only reiterate what others posted above. The Frontline and Capstar should be doing its job by now. If there are still live fleas--they are coming from your home.
You need to vaccuum everything that stands still several times a day. Not just rugs and hardwood--I'm talking couches, drapes, molding, mattresses, chairs, etc. If you have a vaccuum with a bag you must throw it away OUTSIDE after each vaccuuming.
If you decide to do a flea bath on the dogs, you might also want to invest in a flea comb which you should be able to find at most pet stores. You can use it to comb through the fur and it will pull out dead and living fleas.
I have read of using garlic to help repel fleas but be careful not to give too much as it can cause anemia in cats and dogs.

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Luba, have heard of the Garlic but not the oil of Oregano. That is fascinating, Thank you for the tip.
Can I ask,
Have your animals ever gotten vacs. How do you go around the rabies law?
I hate giving mine the vacs and have started to skip years.
Also what about the heartworm. Does this remedy help kkep the mosquitoes away too?
I love the holistic stuff but I still ahve alot to learn/
Thanks
DEB

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Hi, I am fostering two dogs that came direct from a shelter and I have never have dealt with fleas before!
Only a few fleas came off. They are still inundated.
Any information would really be appreciated!

Fleas
http://www.metrokc.gov/lars/animal/Educate/cassidy/dog/dog20.htm
Merial- FRONTLINE Info: (good pictures)
http://uk.merial.com/pet_owners/dogs/dog_flea.html
Ohio State University
http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2081.html
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Buy GARLIC capsuls and give them one with each meal. Also can buy oil of oregano mix 3 drops in two tablespoons of plain yogurt and give daily.
NEVER get in eyes or around the mouth it burns.....if giving oregano oil orally MIX with yogurt.
Hi Luba,
This may be the other side of the coin; from what I looked up on the internet.
GARLIC
Post subject: Re: Fleas! Help!!!
this one says yes:
http://dmoz.org/Health/Animal/Alternative_Medicine/Herbs/Garlic_and_Onions/
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this one says no:
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=2&cat=1661&articleid=1030
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=2&cat=1939&articleid=2414
Onion and Garlic
Veterinary & Aquatic Services Department, Drs. Foster & Smith, Inc.
Toxin
S-methylcysteine sulfoxide, n-propyl disulfide, methyl disulfide, allyl disulfide
Source
Onion or garlic (Allium spp.) including those that are fresh as well as those dried for use as spices.
General Information
Garlic and onion are used as flavor enhancers in food. Since the toxic amount is unknown, it is recommended not to add it to your pet's food. Many human baby foods have onion in them, and it is not recommended to feed them to pets. In dogs and cats, these ingredients can cause Heinz body anemia, resulting in a breakdown of the red blood cells and anemia.
The bulbs, bulbets, flowers, and stems of the garlic and onion are all poisonous.
Toxic Dose
Unknown. Cats appear to be more sensitive than dogs.
Signs
Vomiting, diarrhea, anemia, discolored urine, weakness, liver damage, allergic reactions, asthmatic attacks, and in case of skin exposure, contact dermatitis.
Immediate Action
Induce vomiting and seek veterinary attention. If dermal (skin) exposure, bathe thoroughly and contact a veterinarian.