Barking when playing

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 Tips is getting worse and worse, and barking all the time when he's playing with Boris. Any way of stopping it? The whole ignoring him obviously is not working, I say 'no' all the time and it does nothing.

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Ignoring him for barking to initiate play with another dog will do nothing, he is not looking for your attention, he is trying to get the other dogs!
No doesn't mean anything to a dog, unless you teach them. You could try (when the barking gets awful) giving him a little squirt with a water pistol (make sure he doesn't see it was you who squirted him, we want him to think it happened because of his barking).

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He likes the squirt bottle. And Boris hates it and I don't want him to think it's for him lol.
And yeah, ignoring does nothing as he doesn't care about me at that time, which is why I said 'obviously it won't work' ;)

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You can try removing him from the situation.

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We went through that! Thank goodness for Bimmer - when it got too much he'd discipline the grrrls. He makes my life so much easier :D
Maybe if you distract Tips, then give him the lie down command to keep his attention for a few moments. He'll probably start barking again, but you can speak to him in a whisper - maybe using the phrase "house voice" or "whisper" and see if you can't get him to turn the volume down. Before Bimmer took over the training chores for me, I've always done that with mine and had good results.

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Just ask yourself, what is the payoff for this behavior. It's the fun he's having with the other dog and the communication and attention from Boris that is rewarding to him for some reason. So, how would you remove this payoff? Go snap a leash on him (don't call him to come) and walk him away and isolate him for 5 minutes. Do it immediately when he starts yapping. When he's quiet, return him to play with Boris. Stay near by so you can go snap the leash on him and walk him away again the instant he starts up again. He may not get it for a while....why you're doing this. But also it's very important that when he plays without yapping, to be Johnny on the spot with praise and even give him a treat. Eventually, he'll make the connection if you're consistant. It will take supervision when he's playing and will take lots of your time. But if you want the yapping to stop, he'll need these lessons.
Another idea: Attach a command like "enough bark" or whatever. But don't say it while he's still barking because you can't enforce it immediately. The second he is quiet, use the command so he associates it with quiet. Then praise, "goooooo enough bark" (too many words) You could use "quiet" and "goooood quiet." Later when he knows that the word goes with the behavior, you can try it while he's barking but you better be able to stop him from barking at once. That is why it's good to wait till he's quiet to use the command...at first so he can learn what it means.

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Well obviously you should smack him upside the head, yell at him and then go buy a shock collar. That'll learn him. I'M JOKING!
Doberluv and Renee have great ideas. Try them.

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What about shaking the shake can????? VERY loudly!

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ROFLOL! Then you'll get to listen to two loud, obnoxious noises in harmony! Wow, what a concept! If you can think up one more loud thing to resemble a bunch of beta dogs having a power struggle, you could have a trio.....music to your ears.
Nah....stick with the social isolation and for quieter play....everything his little heart desires...playtime, a hamburger, good stuff.

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I agree, go get a shock collar, your dog is being dominating and you must show him you are the alpha! Start with a check chain and move on to a prong and then some electric shock therapy, just like wolves do in the wild!

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Well obviously you should smack him upside the head, yell at him and then go buy a shock collar. That'll learn him. I'M JOKING!
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ROFLOL! Then you'll get to listen to two loud, obnoxious noises in harmony! Wow, what a concept! If you can think up one more loud thing to resemble a bunch of beta dogs having a power struggle, you could have a trio.....music to your ears.
Nah....stick with the social isolation and for quieter play....everything his little heart desires...playtime, a hamburger, good stuff.
I can see you have never used a shake can. You do NOT use it like a pair of maracas. Think you have the wrong concept there, rofl.

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Another idea: Attach a command like "enough bark" or whatever. But don't say it while he's still barking because you can't enforce it immediately. The second he is quiet, use the command so he associates it with quiet. Then praise, "goooooo enough bark" (too many words) You could use "quiet" and "goooood quiet." Later when he knows that the word goes with the behavior, you can try it while he's barking but you better be able to stop him from barking at once. That is why it's good to wait till he's quiet to use the command...at first so he can learn what it means.
How about using the word QUIET? And why can't you enforce it immediately? Yuckaduck can vouch for the fact that I can get all the girls barking and have them stop as though I had turned an off switch. No big special mystery. Just takes knowing how!

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You do NOT use it like a pair of maracas.
ROFLOL!!!!
Hey! Why not? That's a thought. Jose, for one, would be certain that I was shaking a can of treats and come running to have a taste. LOL.

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You guys are silly :D
Tips likes the can of coins. I tried once, he just looked at me like 'what's this, can I play too?'.
Think putting him in the crate in the room for 3 minutes when he barks would work?

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Take Boris away from the situation when he is barking and say "Quiet" once he stops barking, and only let him play with Boris when he is quiet and non destructive. Then praise him for good behavior with treats and walkies. The Dog will soon learn he can not play with other Dogs while barking, and for playing nicely will get rewarded. But then again, I don't have a Dog yet, so what would I know? :p

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You guys are silly :D
Tips likes the can of coins. I tried once, he just looked at me like 'what's this, can I play too?'.
Think putting him in the crate in the room for 3 minutes when he barks would work?
it most likely would...
i was doing it with oakley whenever he was getting waaay to into playing with reflections...i would just take him by the collar, not look at him or anytthing and put him in his crate...then he'd bark...and id leave him in there for about 3 mins, making sure to only take him out when he was quiet...
after, he kinda was playing much much nicer with the reflections (the poor things were getting a beating...as was oakley's nose as he was ramming it into the wall :rolleyes: )

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You guys are silly :D
Tips likes the can of coins. I tried once, he just looked at me like 'what's this, can I play too?'.
Think putting him in the crate in the room for 3 minutes when he barks would work?
How about stamping your foot hard, and telling him EEEEHHHH EEEHHHHH or UUUUHHHHH UUUUUHHHHH in a loud growling way. Or do like I do, stamp your foot and tell him KNOCK IT OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Works for my myriad troops!
It is also possible to use the shake can as a toss can....hide it behind you, tell him to knock it off and if he doesn't toss the can so it lands on his butt. THAT should distract him!!

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Before i became a trainer I used to stamp my foot and yell "shut UP!". It worked for about a second, then my pup would go back to trying to get my cattle dog to play. Now, I trained my kelpie to stop playing with my pup when he barks. No more barking, but the behaviour is hard to train for a novice.

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Take Boris away from the situation when he is barking and say "Quiet" once he stops barking, and only let him play with Boris when he is quiet and non destructive. Then praise him for good behavior with treats and walkies. The Dog will soon learn he can not play with other Dogs while barking, and for playing nicely will get rewarded. But then again, I don't have a Dog yet, so what would I know?
Mikey, what do you know? You have more sense than a lot of people who have had dogs for a very long time. Good common sense and an understanding of how learning behavior works, how taking away privelges for "bad" behavior and giving reward for good teaches.