My teacher got attacked by pitbullsQuestion:Well bad news for pitties. :( My History teacher came to school with bandages on one arm cause when he was walking his dog he was attacked by two pit bulls. They didn't do too much damage and in my oppinion if they were really out to kill him they would've done a LOT more damage, but I wasn't there so I can't really say. But he grabed his small dog and had to hold it above his head and the one of the pits grabbed onto his arm. It really didn't do too much damage, just a few teeth cuts that aren't that deep. He also said he had some small cuts on his legs. The thing that erked me is that when I came to his room after school there where a big group of teachers talking about pitties and how dangerous they are! Most of their opinions were for banning pits and I got really pissed off. I never liked my teachers in the first place, but I was always very civil to them, but this just erked me the wrong way I guess. So I sorta butted in and gave them what I know about pitbulls and that it was the owners fault and all that, when they never even asked for my opinion. So they were sorta shocked and to tell you the truth so was I! I am very quite in class, I just sit there and do my work or whatever I am suppose to do and never get in trouble and there I was butting into a conversation that had nothing to do with me. So after that I was a bit embaressed with all them staring at me, so I left without getting my homework I needed. Now I'm dreading going back to school tomorrow. I am a little worried about getting ISS or something! I didn't say it rudely or anything but I had to talk a little louder than usual to make sure they heard me, but I am not doubting I won't get in trouble. I can deal with ISS cause I never get in trouble so one ISS won't kill me, but if they call my house and my dad finds out I am so dead!! Hopefully they don't call. Me and my big mouth! :( Answer: Good for You Babyblue!!! :D And because you are quiet most of the time they are more likely to pay attention to you!! I think your history teacher was in the wrong by lifting his dog in the air in the first place! If the Pits weren't jumping up he probably wouldn't have got hurt! And shame on the Pitties owner for not training them properly and giving people an excuse to bad mouth the breed!!! I hope you don't get in trouble!!! But I don't think you will be!! ;) Expressing your opinion is not a punishable offence in my opinion!! :D Answer: Thanks Gustav!!! I think he was worried about his dog getting chewn to peices by the dogs, but from the story he told our class it does sound like they were'nt trying to get him, just his dog. He kept blaming the dogs and not the idiot owners who let them roam!!! :mad: I hope your right about me not getting in trouble! That would really suck!!!!! :rolleyes: Answer: I hope you don't get in trouble. You certainly shouldn't. You didn't do anything wrong. Good for you for standing up for the Pitties! People like that drive me nuts; they are so narrowminded. Answer: Good Job BabyBlue! I always felt it was important to stand up for what I truly believe in, and if presented in a respectful manner sometimes you can change some minds! I hope that your teachers will realize that doing that was important to you and maybe they won't be so quick to form an opinion without all the facts present in the future. Neva, my APBT thanks you! Answer: I hope your right about me not getting in trouble! That would really suck!!!!! :rolleyes: Trust me I'm a doctor! ;) Well no, i'm not really a doctor!! :p But I think you'll be fine! And if they do make a fuss about it, you can explain to your dad and i'm sure he'll understand!! :D Answer: Good for you. Teach those teachers the truth. By the way, whats a ISS? Is it like a detention? I always get in trouble at school, whole staff and school cops pretty much know me by name now. I wouldn't worry because you didn't do anything wrong. -Jon Answer: Thanks guys!!! I hope they get something out of my "speech" cause I never do that and when I do it is usually something that I feel real strongly about. Tell Neva your welcome! ;) Trust me I'm a doctor! ;) Well no, i'm not really a doctor!! :p But I think you'll be fine! And if they do make a fuss about it, you can explain to your dad and i'm sure he'll understand!! Your so funny!! I don't think my dad would understand, he is pretty much against pitbulls anyways. :( Answer: Good for you. Teach those teachers the truth. By the way, whats a ISS? Is it like a detention? I always get in trouble at school, whole staff and school cops pretty much know me by name now. I wouldn't worry because you didn't do anything wrong. -Jon ISS is In School Suspension. I either sit there the entire day in a small classroom with nothing to do or I have to clean up the stuff on the tables after lunch. EWWW! Answer: Your so funny!! I don't think my dad would understand, he is pretty much against pitbulls anyways. :( Well if nothing else i've cheered you up!! :D :p I aim to please! ;) Answer: Well if nothing else i've cheered you up!! :D :p I aim to please! ;) Yup you sure did that!!! :D Thanks. Answer: BabyBlue... please let us know if you get flack from this/these teacher(s). I will be so PISSED if you DO! :mad: Answer: I will update tomorrow. I should know by then cause I have his class tomorrow! :rolleyes: It's great to know that people are pulling for me!! You guys should see the giant smile on my face! Just thinking that I actually stood up for something good, yeah!! Answer: ISS is In School Suspension. I either sit there the entire day in a small classroom with nothing to do or I have to clean up the stuff on the tables after lunch. EWWW! ISS is kinda fun... You hang out with your friends, have a quiet room to do work in, have some time to think, and best of all, you escape the cold, evil clutch of your demented teacher whose only purpose in life is to make your years in highschool sheer TERROR!!!! Sorry, got sidetracked :D However, be proud that you have made your voice heard and maybe you've changed someones view one pitbulls. Good For you!! Answer: Babyblue - I am so glad you voiced your opinion, and it sounds to me that you did it in a very adult way. I don't see that you did anything wrong, and I don't think you should get ISS for something like that. You were not "obstructing" in any way, nor were you being violent, or anything like that. You were just simply stating your opinion, and that IS your right. Good for you for standing up for pits and letting others know it is the owner to blame not the dog! Answer: ISS is kinda fun... You hang out with your friends, have a quiet room to do work in, have some time to think, and best of all, you escape the cold, evil clutch of your demented teacher whose only purpose in life is to make your years in highschool sheer TERROR!!!! Sorry, got sidetracked :D However, be proud that you have made your voice heard and maybe you've changed someones view one pitbulls. Good For you!! LOL! I LOVE that! You should be a writer, Nedim! Answer: I think you did the right thing BabyBlue. AND I think that you could take that opportunity to maybe print out our pitbull pamphlet or give your teacher the link to the sad pitbull website. Maybe that will keep him from spewing hatred! And you would be able to back up your thoughts and won't have to back down to get out of trouble. Just a thought :D Answer: GOOD JOB!!!!! id do the same thing then id whip out pics of my babies and tell jds story. i really hope you don t get in trouble but im glad you did it. i hope your dad doesnt freak but you should always expressyour opinion if you fel strongly about it. i get in trouble at school all the time for that and at home!! lol. Answer: If you get in trouble let us know and I will write a letter to your teacher and tell him exactly what I think! :D Answer: I hope u do not get in trouble..maybe you can get a copy of breeze's report when she is done and give it to your teacher. Tell her that you have a passion about dogs and have read a great deal of info..write down the http to the flash on pitties, make sure u express your sympathy about being bit..it is scary to be attacked, even if the damage is minor. You might let her know even if nothing is said to you. Tell her u hoped that she didn't think it was out of place for you to express yourself...u might be suprised as to the reaction. I think most teachers respect a passion and if you express yourself sincerely...i am sure all will be fine. Let us know how things turn out..i will have my fingers crossed for you..make sure u have your info on you because being prepared just in case will take you a long long way in the respect department. Answer: Wow I didn't even think about the pamphlet!! Thats a good idea thanks! I'm gonna print out the pamphlette and get the adress for the pit bull flash and find some more information on pits. Then when I go to school tomorrow I can be prepared. Plus it gives me a chance to look smart. :p LOL And of course I will tell him how sorry I am for him being attacked. I know that it can be scary to be attacked by a dog. I just need to make a point that it's the irresponsable owners fault these dogs are mean. Thanks guys for the great ideas!! It will be like an entire project! :) Answer: It isn't it wonderful how all this networking works on the world wide web? It's just great! Answer: Hey, as long as you're respectful and not rude, voicing your opinion is the right thing to do. Where would this world be if no one voiced their opinion? Well, we know what happens in countries where that's not allowed. If your teachers object to your explaining nicely your thoughts on the matter, then they need to be deported to Iraq or someplace like that. Don't ever let anyone squelch you or stop you from standing up for something you believe in. If you're doing it in a straight forward, polite way, you're on the right path. Answer: It isn't it wonderful how all this networking works on the world wide web? It's just great! Yeah!! It's just wonderful!! Answer: Always good to look smart..especially when you are!!! :D Answer: Good job, Babyblue. There aren't enough people in this world willing to stand up and speak for those who cannot. Answer: Thanks Renee! :D Answer: Is your teacher even sure that it was a pitbull that he got bit by? It might have just been a dog that was being mean so he just assumed "hey it bit me it must be a pitbull." Lots of pitbull attacks aren't really even done by pits anyways. Answer: Is your teacher even sure that it was a pitbull that he got bit by? It might have just been a dog that was being mean so he just assumed "hey it bit me it must be a pitbull." Lots of pitbull attacks aren't really even done by pits anyways. THAT's the question I was just going to ask. Is he sure it was a pit? Maybe print this http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html and show it to him. :D I did NOT get it right for a long time. Answer: Yeah he is sure because the dogs were caught by animal control and they are definetly pits. :( Saje that thing got me soo confused!! I couldn't find the pit until my 6th try!! Thanks for sharing. Answer: Just want to say I'm proud that you stood up for what you believe and defended the pitbulls (as well as any dog that is labelled). There should be more people like you in this world. I hope bringing in that pamphlet helps at school. Answer: Everyone here is proud of you, and you should be proud of yourself too! Being able to stand up like that and voice your opinion tooks guts! Good for you! I see no reason whatsoever why you should get in trouble. You didn't do anything wrong. Have they done anything to the owners of the pits? Answer: I gave my teacher the pamphlet and all the information I found about pits today and told him how sorry I was he got attacked, but he shouldn't blame pits, he should blame the owners and all that. He seemed to be a bit annoyed with me, but I didn't get introuble!! :D He did ask a few questions and tried to challenge me to make me sound like I didn't know what I was talking about, but I had an answer for all his questions and accusations about pits!! I'm so glad I did my reasearch! In the end he just sorta sighed and said ok and I think he might have a bit of a different opinion on pits, but I still don't think he likes them. :( I'm not sure what happened to the owner of the pits. I'll have to find out tomorrow. I really hope they are gonna get something more than just a fine! Answer: Oh good for you! I'm so glad you didn't get in trouble too. I'm sure you made him think :D Yay! Answer: Sometimes all you have to do is plant a seed of doubt..and stand back..watch it grow. I am extremely proud of the way you conducted yourself. Thumbs up..Good Job..WAY TO GO! Answer: Sometimes all you have to do is plant a seed of doubt..and stand back..watch it grow. I am extremely proud of the way you conducted yourself. Thumbs up..Good Job..WAY TO GO! Thanks! :) Hopefully in the future he won't be so eager to talk badly about pitbulls. Smkie I love that quote! Answer: Good job, BabyBlue! You did GOOD! :D Answer: Don't worry...you did the right thing! Sometimes the right thing is the hardest thing to do. It's important you defend the breed as a whole and help people to realize that that could have been any breed!! Answer: Well, ElinHunter took my very words out of my mouth ! (again! :-) ) Answer: Thanks!!! You guys are great! :p Answer: Three cheers for BabyBlue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Answer: No No....... 4 cheers. It is great to hear you stick up for a much maligned breed. Check out the link in my sig it has lots of good info to make your argument. You would think teachers would be able to use logic better. Answer: My History teacher came to school with bandages on one arm cause when he was walking his dog he was attacked by two pit bulls. They didn't do too much damage and in my oppinion if they were really out to kill him they would've done a LOT more damage, but I wasn't there so I can't really say. But he grabed his small dog and had to hold it above his head and the one of the pits grabbed onto his arm. It really didn't do too much damage, just a few teeth cuts that aren't that deep. ( Being attacked by dogs is an absolutely horrifying experience. I'm a bit shocked at your callous attitude toward the other dog (not to mention the man) - the whole issue here is whether some upset people were badmouthing your breed? Lecturing upset people is useless, too, for further reference. A mild "they're not all bad, they just attract bad owners" is less rude and much more effective. Answer: That is a great link. I found it on my second try :( Better luck next time! Answer: Being attacked by dogs is an absolutely horrifying experience. I'm a bit shocked at your callous attitude toward the other dog (not to mention the man) - the whole issue here is whether some upset people were badmouthing your breed? Lecturing upset people is useless, too, for further reference. A mild "they're not all bad, they just attract bad owners" is less rude and much more effective. I never said that being attacked wasn't horrifying. I know it is and I did express my sympathy about him being attacked. I told him how sorry I was and all that. Plus his dog was fine and I understand him picking it up, I would do the same even if it isn't the smartest thing to do. I was never once rude to him. I have a very quiet voice so my speaking louder than normal isn't very loud at all. They were talking about it like a day after the attack and none of them where really "upset". They were being stereotypical to the breed and it just got to me. I broke into their conversation, but that was practically the only "rude" thing I did. And I did say that they weren't all bad and that is was just the owners. I don't particuarly like being called "callous", but I might be mis unerstanding you so I'll give the benifit of the doubt. Espesially since computers take away the tone you are speaking in. Oh and pit's aren't "my breed" as you stated. I respect them as a dog and not monsters some people think they are. FYI my breed are Husky's and Malamutes. They are my favorite not Pits. Though pits are good dogs. Answer: I didn't actually call you callous, I called your behavior callous. And frankly, "I told him how sorry I was and all that." kind of reinforces my opinion on that. Answer: BabyBlue, I think what you did took guts and we are all proud of you for standing up for what you believe. Answer: Kinda funny how almost every long thread ends in a disagreement or arguement. It is so stupid on both ends to argue with a person god knows how many miles away from you.However babyblue5290, I think what you did was fine. I dont believe in putting dogs before humans (except in some cases), but then again I dont believe in spreading the word and getting people excited over a breed of dog that was obviously bred for fighting. Hence the name "pitbull". It is not the pits fault. Sometimes, its not even the owners fault.It is the fault of those who have bred the dog for such purposes and it is foolish of people to get excited when an attack of such a breed occurs, because that is ultimately what the pitbull was bred for. They were not bred to be showdogs or family dogs, they were made for killing an opponent in the ring and of course they will have the instincts to attack if they see a possible threat. Answer: if a person takes on a pitbull.they take on the responsibility for socializing from the get go..i had a friend that had a puppy that was meaner than sin..i had never seen such an agressive 8 wk pup in my life..she talked with dog behavioralists..and followed their advice taking the dog everywhere..having people of all sizes and races give her treats..took her where there were lots and lots of dogs..and Fergi today is just dandy..i wouldn't have believed it if i hadn't seen it with my own eyes..she knew this pup would take the extra work and she did it...they brought the dog to their home so the responsiblity belongs to the owner..not the breeder. The breeder is responsible for taking milder temperment dogs and breeding responsibly..but that is where their part ends and the owner's begins..so Nedim i disagree with that part, but agree that it took courage to speak up for all the good pitties and good owners of the world..if someone was to check into the posts in breeds..about the good pitties that are destroyed, or stoned...and the owners that lose good dogs or get pelted with rocks..oh my a person could go on forever..some one has to speak up and i am so proud of the way babyblue handled the whole thing.. Answer: Sometimes, its not even the owners fault.It is the fault of those who have bred the dog for such purposes and it is foolish of people to get excited when an attack of such a breed occurs, because that is ultimately what the pitbull was bred for. They were not bred to be showdogs or family dogs, they were made for killing an opponent in the ring and of course they will have the instincts to attack if they see a possible threat. Hate to break it to you but many breeds were breed to kill. The Pitbull like every Terrier has dominant trait and a high prey drive but after that it is all HUMAN influence. They were NEVER meant to be human aggressive!! I could make the average border collie human aggressive much easier than your average pitbull or amstaff! Please check out the link in my sig. Don't take Nature over Nurture! I have to Amstaffs (AKC pitbulls) and they have ZERO human aggression. I could not get one of them to attack a human if I tried. Nedim, I question your knowledge of the breed. If you check out the link you will find out that they were Definately bred for family dogs and are now being bred for Show and Wieght pulling! The Amstaff was one of the first dogs reconized by the AKC Answer: I didn't actually call you callous, I called your behavior callous. And frankly, "I told him how sorry I was and all that." kind of reinforces my opinion on that. I know you called my behaivor callous and calling that callous is basically calling me callous. What am I without my behaivor? I am nothing. So you DID call me callous. But maybe your right. Maybe I am callous! But I try to be as nice as possible, even to the point of being taken advantage of. You don't know me!! You know nothing about me!! You don't know what I've seen! What I've been through in my short existence!! So you have NO right to call me callous!!! NO RIGHT WHAT SO EVER!!! Oh and for your information I only said "I told him how sorry I was and all that." because I didn't think you guys wanted to hear what EXACTLY what I said. I was just shortening it. Answer: Hate to break it to you but many breeds were breed to kill. The Pitbull like every Terrier has dominant trait and a high prey drive but after that it is all HUMAN influence. They were NEVER meant to be human aggressive!! I could make the average border collie human aggressive much easier than your average pitbull or amstaff! Please check out the link in my sig. Don't take Nature over Nurture! I have to Amstaffs (AKC pitbulls) and they have ZERO human aggression. I could not get one of them to attack a human if I tried. Nedim, I question your knowledge of the breed. If you check out the link you will find out that they were Definately bred for family dogs and are now being bred for Show and Wieght pulling! The Amstaff was one of the first dogs reconized by the AKC Thank you for saying that. I was about to say the exact same thing. My pit bull would NEVER hurt anyone. She loves kids. I have a 7 year old nephew and a 4 year old little boy that is around her all the time, and she listens to them better than she listens to me!!! My dog is extremely jealous of other dogs, but she would never ever ever hurt a person. Answer: maybe the pitbull flash should be viewed right now..what was the facts stated there..fourth from the bottom of biters????? i think that is right. Answer: BabyB, I don't think most of us thought you were being callous. You were just being concise about a part of the information in your post that was only tangential to the subject you were posting about. What most don't consider is that even the fighting lines of Pit Bulls - make that 'especially' the fighting lines - are bred with great inhibition against biting humans. These fools that fight their dogs have to be able to wade into a pit with enraged dogs and separate them. That wouldn't be possible if these dogs didn't have extreme inhbitions against biting humans! I think the biggest reason we are seeing so much bad press is because of the all of the walking billboards for stupidity that are out there using sociopathic dogs to boost their machismo. The breeders/trainers who cater to these fools, breeding and training "attack" dogs for the general public and the pathetic, dysfunctional punks who are their clients are the ones who should be sitting in a pound. Our animal cruelty laws should reflect that this is animal cruelty and punish it accordingly. My next question is what is the difference in the reasoning capacity between someone who condemns an entire breed or breeds because of the actions of a few isolated individuals and someone who condemns a race for the same reasons? Answer: in this day and age..to find a student that cares..expresses not only concern for the injury..but concern for the breed as well is just outstanding.it shows a concern, initiative,public awareness,and most of all HEART .not callous. Answer: If I shut my eyes and threw a pebble outside any school in America, the pebble would hit one student who cared passionately about some issue and richochet off another. Youthful enthusiasm on social issues is far from unusual and it is not always laudable. Answer: are u a teacher? Do you work with teens? Are u a parent? Answer: Renee and Smkie thank you for the support. I probably shouldn't get upset over what one person is saying, but it just makes me feel badly. If I shut my eyes and threw a pebble outside any school in America, the pebble would hit one student who cared passionately about some issue and richochet off another. Youthful enthusiasm on social issues is far from unusual and it is not always laudable. I'm not real sure how to respond to you. I guess I don't understand why being passionate about something is a bad thing. Shouldn't being passionate about something be a good thing? I'm not just overly defensive and am rarely able to speak out against anything, so why was this so wrong of me? It's not like I am passionate about this one day and in a year I wont even care. I will care and still be just as passionate if not more as the years go. I know I will. I'm not sure if you've had many experiences with teenager's or if your just basing everything you've said on what you've heard about teens or if you've met some rude teens. I don't know, but either way I'm not your normal teen I guess. I'm never rude and hardly get in trouble with anyone (except my dad, but most the time it's not my fault :rolleyes: )! But I guess there's no way to change your mind about me so I give up. Answer: I think it's wonderful that you care so much, BabyB. I wish there were more young people like you. Too many could care less about what happens to animals. You're awesome! ((((HUGS)))) Answer: Thank you CreatureTeacher. :) I know it's stupid of me to get so upset over one person that doesn't even know me, so can't really make a good judgement about my attitude. It just really gets to me when someone doesn't approve of me. :( Answer: If you know you're trying to do the right thing, BabyB, it doesn't matter what anyone else approves or disapproves of. The world is full of the jaded and apathetic. Answer: If you know you're trying to do the right thing, BabyB, it doesn't matter what anyone else approves or disapproves of. The world is full of the jaded and apathetic. Thanks Renee :) I will try to not care as much about what people think. Not to the point of being rude or mean or anything, just so I am not as dependent on their approval. But I doubt I will acheive that goal, but oh well. I'll live and I should probably stop reading the therapist books ;) Answer: Being rude isn't something that's required to ignore those people, BabyB ;) You can look at them and smile and nod. When they try to drag you down, just remember to consider the source it's coming from! Answer: Being rude isn't something that's required to ignore those people, BabyB ;) You can look at them and smile and nod. When they try to drag you down, just remember to consider the source it's coming from! I don't understand. What source? But smiling and nodding means you still hear them and some gets through and it still makes me feel bad. Answer: Believe it or not, but my dog scared away a loose black pit-lookalike(dunno what it was really, but was about size of pit similar head proportions as well) while he was walking his morning walk. Dog just came flying through some bushes growling at us. Good thing it run away when it saw two of us. I wonder what would it do if it was someone like a women or a child without protection on 4 legs walking near them. Makes me glad i make my family take my guy with them when they go on walks around here. Answer: . I wonder what would it do if it was someone like a women or a child without protection on 4 legs walking near them. Makes me glad i make my family take my guy with them when they go on walks around here. Actually, you have a better chance of having problems with a stray dog if you have your dog with you. Most dogs don't want to mess with Humans but will be much more inclined to attack another dog. Your dog was lucky to have you with him....lol. Answer: I don't understand. What source? But smiling and nodding means you still hear them and some gets through and it still makes me feel bad. "Consider the source" means to remember that the people giving you a hard time or judging you don't deserve your attention. Smiling and nodding doesn't mean you still hear them, you can be thinking about something entirely different and paying absolutely no attention whatsoever - to the point that their words sound like gibberish. It just ticks them off no end though, that you're smiling and not giving them the reward of the reaction they want from you - that hurt look on your face or hearing you trying to defend yourself against their meaningless words. Answer: Actually, you have a better chance of having problems with a stray dog if you have your dog with you. Most dogs don't want to mess with Humans but will be much more inclined to attack another dog. Your dog was lucky to have you with him....lol. Ordinarily you'd be right on the money, Amstaffer, but the reactions other dogs have to a dog like Orion (Ovcharka) are pretty different! It's not just the size; there's an aura - charisma may be a better word - from these giant molossoid herding breeds that stops a lot of foolishness cold before it ever gets started. Other dogs really don't like to challenge this type of dog. I've had the same type of incident with the Filas. Our dogs aren't dog-aggressive, but they are defensive, especially when we're on the other end of the leash! There's a look in the eye and a body stance that just lets other dogs know that aggression just isn't in their best interests, lol! One of the reasons we have to be so responsible about socializing these dogs and making sure they learn the difference between what's normal and what is a threat. Answer: are u a teacher? Do you work with teens? Are u a parent? I remember being a teen. Every tiresome moment of it, surrounded by people who wanted to save the environment, rock the vote, and do artsy posters declaring NO BLOOD FOR OIL!!!! It's nice to have passion. I'm just saying that having passion doesn't mean you're right, and it doesn't excuse silly behavior. Youth is an excuse for that, but youth is just lack of experience, not a natural wellspring of passion. Answer: i am surrounded by teens..i have "fostered" my share as well..i am up to my eyebrows in their interests..their music.(gack)..i am their transportation, their coach, their ear..and a unfortuantely more then i care..their dumping ground..i can honestly say from my own experience that 3 out of 10 (hey Sunnypup do you think those odds are accurate?) can see the world outside of thier own immediant needs..have a great indifference to anything not directly related to themselves..that is why i am so appriciative of the teens on this forum..not only are the articulate..show concerns not only for their own selves..but a passion for others as well. An ability to see the rest of us as real people..not just something to be tolerated until we go away..i want to commend anyone that stands up for the plight of an animal..i think BB did a great job..i remember being a teen too..i hated people in general..i am glad these kids are doing better than i did..callous? I DON'T THINK SO! THat would have been the typical repsonse..a snigger and walk away..would have been callous..and typical..and usual. Answer: I remember being a teen, too, being surrounded by people who were only interested in the moment, the next party, whether they were wearing the right brand of shoes or clothes, whether or not they were popular enough, had enough money, enough status, a credit card to use at the mall, the next thing that benefitted them in the short term - all sorts of ridiculous, apathetic, self-centered behaviour. They're still eating the environment, discouraging free speech and selling what there is of their small souls for oil - and I'm still doing my best to thwart them - all these years later. Answer: We apparently hung out with different crowds. Answer: Oh, I didn't hang out with that short-sighted bunch - just observed them and interacted at will. I was always pleasant to them when they sought me out, which was frequently, but to hang out with them? Never . . . I did always wonder, though, how people who were so boring could be so potentially dangerous. Answer: Potentially dangerous? What are they going to do, establish pro-Hummer terrorist cells? Answer: Actually, you have a better chance of having problems with a stray dog if you have your dog with you. Most dogs don't want to mess with Humans but will be much more inclined to attack another dog. Your dog was lucky to have you with him....lol. LOL. ok... I just dont see a pit as a threat to my dog i guess. He's there for protection from everything, dogs and humans alike. Answer: Ordinarily you'd be right on the money, Amstaffer, but the reactions other dogs have to a dog like Orion (Ovcharka) are pretty different! It's not just the size; there's an aura - charisma may be a better word - from these giant molossoid herding breeds that stops a lot of foolishness cold before it ever gets started. Other dogs really don't like to challenge this type of dog. I've had the same type of incident with the Filas. Our dogs aren't dog-aggressive, but they are defensive, especially when we're on the other end of the leash! There's a look in the eye and a body stance that just lets other dogs know that aggression just isn't in their best interests, lol! One of the reasons we have to be so responsible about socializing these dogs and making sure they learn the difference between what's normal and what is a threat. Yep, exactly right. Answer: "Consider the source" means to remember that the people giving you a hard time or judging you don't deserve your attention. Smiling and nodding doesn't mean you still hear them, you can be thinking about something entirely different and paying absolutely no attention whatsoever - to the point that their words sound like gibberish. It just ticks them off no end though, that you're smiling and not giving them the reward of the reaction they want from you - that hurt look on your face or hearing you trying to defend yourself against their meaningless words. I see....next time I'll just sing my favorite song in my head while I smile and nodd. That makes soo much sense to me know. :) It's that saying "Don't give the fire fuel to burn" or something like that. :rolleyes: I remember being a teen, too, being surrounded by people who were only interested in the moment, the next party, whether they were wearing the right brand of shoes or clothes, whether or not they were popular enough, had enough money, enough status, a credit card to use at the mall, the next thing that benefitted them in the short term - all sorts of ridiculous, apathetic, self-centered behaviour. They're still eating the environment, discouraging free speech and selling what there is of their small souls for oil - and I'm still doing my best to thwart them - all these years later. That's exactly how so many of the kids in my school are!! They are always talking about how their fathers gave them a credit card and their new sports cars and clothes and...yadda yadda yadda! It is really annoying. I look at them and am glad I am not that self-centered....at least I hope I'm not! :rolleyes: Oh and I don't like the rap stuff...ICK....It just doesn't sound good to me. Right now I am listening to creed. I think it's his first cd, but not sure cause I am listening to the burnt copy. My freind had the cd....yes I know...bad me :rolleyes: Answer: Potentially dangerous? What are they going to do, establish pro-Hummer terrorist cells? If you don't think those kids are dangerous you need to go back to High school! It's a dangerous place to be....especially where I live. There are soo many fights that end up with one or more people going to the hospital. Blood all over the ground and gangs everywhere. And I don't live in the worst place! :eek: Answer: I haven't been on this post for a while, and couldn't believe how it's revolved into the present issue.! BB, you did the right thing. I said many posts ago , I was proud of you. Grammy's been around a while and has always thought..Damned if I do, Damned if I don't. Also, at one time the only thing I wanted on my last stone was " Lord knows she tried " ...A few years ago my then next door neighbor had a pitbull they rescued. They only let it out in their fenced in back yard twice a day....it would try to attack my golden through the fence. My Bubba was a very layed back golden I could bring out in front with me ( not fenced ) when I was gardening. We were out one day , he asleep in the shade, me weeding when I saw a shadow. It was the Pit...now this dog had attacked 2 people , ....he wasn't looking at me, he was slowly moving towards Bubba with shackles up. Yes, I was dumb ....I ran to Bubba, grabbed his collar and ran him to the house. I knew he wasn't a fighter . Luckily the people came out and caught their dog....he had gone through the screen door. Now that we've had a nice story with a happy ending, let's cool it on this issue. BTW....they were BAD owners , bad neighbors (renters) .... bad people period. Had a Chow chained outside, never groomed who was dying of heart worm....5 cats with fleas so bad they infested the house and a small dog that was never seen. Bye Bye from me to this thread... Answer: If you don't think those kids are dangerous you need to go back to High school! It's a dangerous place to be....especially where I live. There are soo many fights that end up with one or more people going to the hospital. Blood all over the ground and gangs everywhere. And I don't live in the worst place! :eek: You'd need a very large gun to get me back to high school. The post I was responding to was talking about spoiled brat middle-class kids who thought only of clothes and dates and the new cars their daddies were going to buy them on their 16th birthday. As you've pointed out, they're hardly the most dangerous members of society, and they grow up to be pretty much the same - annoying but deadly only insofar as their hunger for material possessions drives the economy into deranged bargains with the devil. Which is a bit lofty and big picture for me. |
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