Pit bull puppy chews off baby's toes!Question:BOSSIER CITY, La. - A pit bull puppy chewed off four of a baby girl's toes while the child's parents slept, police here said Monday. The parents were booked on charges of child desertion and criminal negligence and were being held in the Bossier Parish Jail pending an initial court appearance. Police said the parents were sleeping on a mattress in the living room of their residence and the month-old girl was in an infant seat beside them when the puppy began chewing on their baby's toes. Mary Shannon Hansche, 22, and Christopher Wayne Hansche, 26, told police they woke up to the sound of the baby crying, found her mangled foot and took her to the hospital about 8:30 a.m. Sunday. "They did not see the dog injuring the child," police spokesman Mark Natale said. The girl underwent surgery Sunday at Sutton's Children's Hospital in Shreveport. There was no way to reattach the child's toes, Natale said Monday. The puppy was 6 weeks old and had no record of receiving its shots and will be quarantined for 10 days to check for rabies. Natale said he did not know what the puppy's fate would be after that. "The puppy itself was just several weeks old! I mean this was essentially a puppy," Natale said. "This puppy might have been trying to nurse on the toes of this baby," veterinarian Michael Dale speculated. "I know that sounds a little far fetched, but that's the first thing that comes to my mind." Teresa Miller, who sold the puppy to the Hansches, was skeptical the dog did it. "He didn't chew on anything while he was with me. Out of all of them (in the litter), he was the least chewy." Another veterinarian, Dr. Valri Brown, said if the puppy chewed off the infant's toes, it would not have happened quickly. "It would have to be a period of time — maybe at least an hour," she said. Meanwhile, the puppy's been quarantined at Bossier City's animal control office for the next 10 days to check for rabies. Natale said he did not know what the puppy's fate would be after that. When she is released from the hospital, the child will be placed in a foster home until the case against her parents is settled, officials said. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor.../baby_s_toes_1 Answer: Really, I can see it happening. I was staying at my friends house when I was a kid and we were sleeping on the floor. I woke up to their husky puppy chewing on my toes. Now if I were a baby who couldn't defend myself who knows what could have happened. Bottom line is who leaves their BABY on the floor with a puppy and just ignore it when it's crying. Some people shoudn't be parents. It makes me wonder if the parents were high or something if they can't notice their baby screaming next to them for an hour. The poor kid, I hope she's feeling better soon. Answer: [QUOTE=Georgygirl;548259 It makes me wonder if the parents were high or something if they can't notice their baby screaming next to them for an hour. The poor kid, I hope she's feeling better soon.[/QUOTE] That's what went through my mind too. Why could they not hear the baby screaming for the length of time it took her to have her toes gnawed off? Answer: There are so many questionable things in this story.... Police said the parents were sleeping on a mattress in the living room of their residence and the month-old girl was in an infant seat beside them when the puppy began chewing on their baby's toes. "They did not see the dog injuring the child," police spokesman Mark Natale said. Their living conditions sound a little rough, is it possible it was rats? Then again, who could sleep through a screaming child? told police they woke up to the sound of the baby crying, found her mangled foot and took her to the hospital about 8:30 a.m. Sunday. Is it possible it was the parents? Teresa Miller, who sold the puppy to the Hansches The puppy was 6 weeks old and had no record of receiving its shots Breeder irresponsibility selling so young and without any shots. Another veterinarian, Dr. Valri Brown, said if the puppy chewed off the infant's toes, it would not have happened quickly. "It would have to be a period of time — maybe at least an hour," she said. I woke up if my children slept past their regular feeding time without any crying, how can you sleep through an hour of a baby screaming? I'd be investigating the parents very closely, they may have blamed the pup for something they did..... Answer: Rats - that sounds like a possibility to me, DryCreek. There is definitely something fishy about the story. Answer: Yet another example of why people should be forced to take a competency test before being allowed to have a pet or a child. That baby had to be screaming bloody murder for a good long time to have lost its toes to whatever ate them. This entire visual is disgusting. Those parents are disgusting. It sounds like they couldn't even afford a bed much less support a baby and a puppy. People should also take a competency test before breeding too. The puppy was six weeks old. What was it doing away from its mother? This breeder was a dimwad. A child lost its toes and all the breeder can say is the puppy was "The least chewy"????? Answer: There are so many questionable things in this story.... Their living conditions sound a little rough, is it possible it was rats? Then again, who could sleep through a screaming child? Is it possible it was the parents? Breeder irresponsibility selling so young and without any shots. I woke up if my children slept past their regular feeding time without any crying, how can you sleep through an hour of a baby screaming? I'd be investigating the parents very closely, they may have blamed the pup for something they did..... :hail: :hail: You stold my thunder...very fishy indeed Answer: Yet another example of why people should be forced to take a competency test before being allowed to have a pet or a child. :hail: :hail: Amen...preach on! Answer: I echo everything that's been said! Answer: IDIOTS. They should both be neutered and both infants removed from them. Answer: can you imagine the pain that poor baby had to endure for the length of time it took that pup to gnaw her little baby toes off!?! That just pisses me off. Anyone can have a baby, but not everyone can be a responsible parent. That poor baby, that just breaks my heart. Answer: That's what I was thinking...imagine the pain that poor baby endured!!! I can't imagine hearing that cry :( :yikes: I'm pretty much speechless, others have said much better.... Dawn Answer: I see no reason to suspect that rats were to blame. Just because someone's mattress is on the floor does not mean that they're dwelling is rat infested. It amazes me some of the things pit bull people find to try and take the blame off of their breed even when it is a situation like this that is CLEARLY the owner's fault. All puppies should be confined for their own safety let alone the safety of others. I have YET to even hear of a puppy that is mean or aggressive. Answer: It's a puppy with no bite inhibition. Baby toes are fragile. I can see how it happened. It wasn't malice on the dog's part. Sad. :( Answer: Having raised puppies , I don't see how a 6 week old could possibly chew off toes in even an hour ! Something was up with the parents ! Answer: Sure it's obvious that the parents were to blame, but I know how this is going to go over "pit bulls like eating people" although WE all know it could have been any breed. Puppies chew. Yup. I feel horrible for the child and I hopefully the child wont ever have to be in the care of it's parents. The parents had to of 1) been completly knocked out or 2) heard the baby cry and just didnt care It is absolutly horrible that a parent would allow this to happen to their child. It is crazier to me that a pup can actually do that! let's hope the breeder gets shut down as well. Another reason never to allow your child to be alone with a dog, even if it is a puppy. My guess is that the parents left the child alone with the dog for an extended amount of time (which would be why they didnt hear the crying) and went somewher else. I dont really buy their story of sleeping. It doesnt make sense why they couldnt hear the baby cry. Answer: what do u think is going to happen to the pup? Answer: I don't know what will happen to the pup but I think they should put down the parents immediately. Answer: I don't know what will happen to the pup but I think they should put down the parents immediately. AMEN!!! :hail: what do u think is going to happen to the pup? Knowing BSL, they'll put down another innocent dog, and the whole evil cycle continues again.... Answer: For those of you who are thinking "pit bull" at the age of six baby weeks, there was a case like this where a Jack Russell chewed a two month old's foot while her inept Mother who shouldn't have been allowed to spawn took a nap. Gratefully, the mother was arressted. But she is probably out now, but won't be competency tested for her ability to have a kid and a pet. Unfortunately. The child had to have the foot amputated. http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:GJIstcDqU_0J:onlineathens.com/stories/081905/new_20050819036.shtml+puppy+chews+baby+toes&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&ie=UTF-8 Answer: What idiots. She should have been spayed. (the mom) I agree with the mandatory test before having a child. Look at all these idiots running around and the sad thing is in both cases, those people can still reproduce. How scary is that? Answer: I just saw this on the news, and the puppy is sooo tiny!! Answer: I see no reason to suspect that rats were to blame. I think rats are as good an explanation as a 6 week old puppy chewing of the toes of a baby. I actually think the parents doing some bizzare **** is as plausible. In this day and age where parents microwave their kids I think it could easily be the parents blaming a dog. Answer: LOL!!! This is too funny...I can't even get Dulce to chew on raw hide.. Answer: They can't blame or PTS a puppy THAT young... Why did they have a puppy that young anyway???? Answer: I don't know what will happen to the pup but I think they should put down the parents immediately. omg.. .hhehehehhhhehe ^ ToscasMom.. you are too funny. Answer: What a poor puppy and baby! Like it's that tiny pups fault he was left unattended and didn't have a human brain. *rollseyes* Answer: Like it's that tiny pups fault he was left unattended and didn't have a human brain. Apparently, neither did any of the adult humans in the house. Answer: at six weeks, if the puppy did actually do it, i would guess he was trying to nurse on the baby's toes. so sad :( Answer: Infestation is a far cry from "A Rat." :rolleyes: A mouse can enter your home through a hole that a pencil would fit through, and a rat only requires a hole about 1 1/2- 2 inches to gain entry to your domicile. If they really believe that it was the pup, they should have purged the pups stomach to check the contents and should be screening the pups feces for proof. Unfortunately, this probably did not/will not happen. In another article about the same, they mention that they also own a ferret, but that it was in a cage and impossible for it to get out. I keep a clean home yet still have a problem with mice. Why? Because it is being renovated and it will take time to fix/close all the entry points. It is certainly not an off the wall thought that a rat could have done this, living conditions aside. No matter what animal (or human) did this to the infant, it is the parents responsibility to keep that child safe. Which they have failed miserably at. I just hope that they don't kill this pup due to human failings. Answer: And what about the poor toeless baby? Haven't actually seen one comment mentioning that yet..... Answer: And what about the poor toeless baby? Haven't actually seen one comment mentioning that yet..... Actually there has been, but I think that is a given in this story. It is clear that the baby went through hell.... a disagreement has risen because the of the puppy and blame. Answer: I think rats are as good an explanation as a 6 week old puppy chewing of the toes of a baby. I actually think the parents doing some bizzare **** is as plausible. In this day and age where parents microwave their kids I think it could easily be the parents blaming a dog. You know, you're right. Now I'm thinking maybe it was a tiny dragon that was there just long enough to eat the baby's toes. Answer: Regardless of what/who chewed off the baby's toes, the parents were absolutely 100% responsible for what happened. We were just learning in developmental psych how babies have different cries, and that mothers learn to recognize them pretty friggin quickly...most people already know the difference...the 'pain' cry is very distinct and hard to ignore... this makes me sick that an innocent (whether or not he did it, he is still innocent) 6 WEEK puppy might be held responsible...and the fact that it just happened to be a pit makes it that much worse. One more tally mark against them... Answer: You know, you're right. Now I'm thinking maybe it was a tiny dragon that was there just long enough to eat the baby's toes. I understand now.... your right...There were hundreds of pit bulls in New York City on Sept 11th, 2001 so it must have been them who blew up the Twin Towers. :rolleyes: Answer: I think we all agree it doesnt matter on what breed the puppy was. Someone even posted a simular case that involved a Jack Russell puppy I really wish sterilization was an option for the parents. If I were to guess I would guess that they left the baby alone completly where they lived and went somewhere else then came back to this but dont want to admit it. There is NO way that you cant hear a baby cry in this situation. Hopfully both babies will find new, loving homes with people who are smart enough to take care of them. I also wonder why a 6 week old puppy was sent to it's new home and I agree it doesnt sound like the best enviroment. Why get a puppy if you are struggling so much? And who would sell a puppy to someone who doesnt even have a bed?? Honestly I hope the breeder gets shut down. You arent supposed to be able to commercially sell puppies until they are 8 weeks I believe. I know you cant ship them before that. I was telling one of my friends about this last night and she said the puppy was probably starving and that is why it was trying to nurse. Answer: I think we all agree it doesnt matter on what breed the puppy was.. I wish to God that statement was true. Answer: And what about the poor toeless baby? Haven't actually seen one comment mentioning that yet..... Excuse me? I was the first person to respond to this thread and I DID mention the baby. Maybe you need to read things a little more closely. The poor kid, I hope she's feeling better soon. Answer: oh god... where do you start. i just wanna say that i don't think the dog should be PTS. i don't blame the dog in the slightest. a puppy can't know that and it obvisouly wasn't a vicous attack. just another point. a puppy... how could it chew on a babies toes for over an hour while the baby is screaming and the PUPPY! doesn't get put off or soemthing... gosh wouldnt a pup be taking more interest in the screaming then the toes? Answer: It has nothing to do with the BREED. Jeez, just because it's a Pit Bull doesn't mean Pit Bull people have to immediately jump all over and scream about how it's not the breed's fault. Preaching to the choir here, I think. :) It's a PUPPY. It could've been a Lab or a Mastiff or a GSD or a Schnauzer. Poor thing was probably starving and mistreated, and at 6 weeks old it didn't know any better. I feel sorry for the innocent ones involved. Answer: MRose- PUppies are not people, they dont think "hey this kid is screaming, maybe it's because I am chewing on her toes" I highly dobut if the dog made any connection between the toes & the baby crying at all. People, remember dogs are dogs, they dont think like we do. They have NO logic. The puppy might have just thought "hey, this kid is making some awful racket I wonder why" but my best guess is the dog didnt think anything at all. they rely on instinct, nothing else. Especially puppies because they have not been taught how to properly act. They know, I am hungry, I am going to suck on these things in front of me. Heck, my cat TO THIS DAY (he is almost 4 now) still bites my nose trying to nurse. When I got him he was 8 weeks old, and already weaned. Animals have no logic. If anyone wants to say anything about the breed, read the article ToscasMom posted. That will set you straight. It involves a Jack Russell and the Jack Russell actually did more damage to the baby. Answer: I understand now.... your right...There were hundreds of pit bulls in New York City on Sept 11th, 2001 so it must have been them who blew up the Twin Towers. :rolleyes: I've read the story a few times and I can't seem to find the words rat or rats in it. But, pit bull puppy was mentioned a few times though. I'm not a pit bull hater btw. I'm just amazed at how pit owners look for any cop out they can find (or make up in your case) to pass the blame. Answer: I just can't imagine how the parents couldn't hear their child screaming in pain. I'm not even a mother, but I have helped raise my 4 younger siblings and I know for a fact that if I heard that kind of shrieking pain sound I would have been up in an instant! I slept w/"one ear open" constantly even though my step mom and dad were there as well, so I think something is definitely wrong in this situation. Answer: Our news carried the story this noon ....said the pup was 6 months old .....not 6 weeks. Answer: I've read the story a few times and I can't seem to find the words rat or rats in it. But, pit bull puppy was mentioned a few times though. I'm not a pit bull hater btw. I'm just amazed at how pit owners look for any cop out they can find (or make up in your case) to pass the blame. The problem is pit bulls get attacked even in cases like this where it was obviously not the puppy's fault. That is why pit bull owners are so quick to come to the defense. I only foster a pit bull and I already know. Before I even mention what breed Jet is I get ready for an "oh...." followed by a shake of the head or a "are you crazy" look. I have gotten to where I plan my speech out before I even tell them what Jet is. I tell them he is a pit bull followed immediatly by how sweet he is and what a great dog he is, and how pits arent bad dogs, they are just the vicitms of bad publicity and crappy owners. It's sad but it's how most people think. I have yet to hear anyone say "oh you are fostering a pit bull, how cool is that". Or even say "pit bulls are pretty nice dogs, arent they?". It's always "I'd be careful if I were you, you know pits are vicious". I can see why they come to the rescue of this puppy before anything is even said, because people are going to think "It is a pit bull it is vicious, it ate the child's toes on purpose". Answer: The problem is pit bulls get attacked even in cases like this where it was obviously not the puppy's fault. That is why pit bull owners are so quick to come to the defense. I only foster a pit bull and I already know. Before I even mention what breed Jet is I get ready for an "oh...." followed by a shake of the head or a "are you crazy" look. I have gotten to where I plan my speech out before I even tell them what Jet is. I tell them he is a pit bull followed immediatly by how sweet he is and what a great dog he is, and how pits arent bad dogs, they are just the vicitms of bad publicity and crappy owners. It's sad but it's how most people think. I have yet to hear anyone say "oh you are fostering a pit bull, how cool is that". Or even say "pit bulls are pretty nice dogs, arent they?". It's always "I'd be careful if I were you, you know pits are vicious". I can see why they come to the rescue of this puppy before anything is even said, because people are going to think "It is a pit bull it is vicious, it ate the child's toes on purpose". I understand what you're saying. I find myself defending my basenji quite a bit also because they are notoriously naughty. But, to make something up like imaginary rats kinda gives people a perception of pit bull owners as being a little off. Now, if it were metioned that there were rats in the dwelling, I could see the possibility of the rats being to blame. Answer: Now, if it were metioned that there were rats in the dwelling, I could see the possibility of the rats being to blame. How "off" is it to assume what these people who allowed this to happen are saying what is true or a complete story....please don't be so naive. Answer: I couldn't see this happening with a 6 week old , but after hearing today it was a 6 months old , I can see it happening . However ... I still say the parents had to be " out of it " not to hear that first scream . Answer: Our news carried the story this noon ....said the pup was 6 months old .....not 6 weeks. I love it (sarcasm!) how this story has gotten around, everybody knows about it, but no one has the same facts. I wonder if your 6mo puppy was the same 6wk puppy I saw on the news... they showed the puppy... wonder if that was made up too :lol-sign: Answer: But, to make something up like imaginary rats kinda gives people a perception of pit bull owners as being a little off. Now, if it were metioned that there were rats in the dwelling, I could see the possibility of the rats being to blame. Why do you think rats are imaginary just because you don't see them? My dog swears up and down that there is a mouse in our bedroom; should I disregard her hunting behavior because I can't see the prey? I had a king-size rat living in my house a few years ago that I wasn't even aware of until the day he walked out on to my stove. (Gawd, I hate rats.) And what's to say that investigators into what seems like a cut-and-dry case are going to go looking for rat signs? I mean, honestly. Folks are getting mad about Pit Bull people suggesting other possibilities. Maybe its because our dogs don't get a fair trial most of the time. We have to think outside the box because the media and many other people wont. Answer: The pup they showed on the news was definitely not 6 weeks old ! In fact didn't even look like a Pitty ! What's up !!?? Answer: The pup they showed on the news was definitely not 6 weeks old ! In fact didn't even look like a Pitty ! What's up !!?? The picture I saw http://www.foxnews.com/images/245862/1_61_121206_puppy.jpg Looks 6 weeks at most......... Answer: thats the one I saw too ^ Answer: I don't know if it's already been mentioned or not but I read on a dog blog last night that the parents are ro be charged with Child Desertion. Not sure of the truth of that though it certainly seems justified. Has anyone else seen that or know any updated news on this story? Answer: Why do you think rats are imaginary just because you don't see them? My dog swears up and down that there is a mouse in our bedroom; should I disregard her hunting behavior because I can't see the prey? I had a king-size rat living in my house a few years ago that I wasn't even aware of until the day he walked out on to my stove. (Gawd, I hate rats.) And what's to say that investigators into what seems like a cut-and-dry case are going to go looking for rat signs? I mean, honestly. Folks are getting mad about Pit Bull people suggesting other possibilities. Maybe its because our dogs don't get a fair trial most of the time. We have to think outside the box because the media and many other people wont. I can't help but just shake my head. Answer: I can't help but just shake my head. Me too.............. Answer: How "off" is it to assume what these people who allowed this to happen are saying what is true or a complete story....please don't be so naive. Naive? I'll leave that one alone. Answer: I feel sorry for the poor child AND the poor puppy. This should of never happened and I think the parents are the ONLY ones to blame in the case of the child! The breeder is to blame for selling such a young pup! Here is a link to a short video clip of it. Sorry there is a short commercial first. Sorry if this has already been posted. http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/scp_v3/viewer/index.php?pid=16598&rn=49750&cl=1415356&ch=68276&src=news Answer: fact is that baby had to scream for a long time before the deed was done. 6 week old baby teeth puncture more then they tear. THat pup looks cold in the video, why oh why do both babies have to suffer. It is the stupidity of the parents that obviously were NOT around or so passed out they coudln't be roused. Can you imagine how much a baby would scream and how long it would take those little teeth to remove 4 toes? Answer: :mad: The whole thing is disgusting and it is scary to see how dog ignorant people are.... "we don't know why the 6 week old PIT BULL puppy attacked", anyone who thinks that 6 week old puppies "attack" is about as ignorant as someone can be about dogs. (glad they kinda had someone on to say that). When you listen to it do you hear the emphasis on PIT BULL? The guy reading the story makes sure you don't miss that part. Answer: I noticed that he did emphasized Pit Bull too, :( but looking at that poor little puppy I just don't see how that small of a pup can do it even in an hour. Let alone, like everyone is saying, without the parents hearing their baby screaming. I feel sorry for both the child and the puppy. Those parent should rott in jail! Sorry, but I have a 3 year old, and I couldn't imagin leaving her alone with any dogs while I sleep, and when she was a baby, every little noise she would make woke me up. She didn't even have to be crying. Answer: Attacked is a very strong word and is very unfair. If the puppy did chew the babies toes, it had to have been trying to nurse at that age. My guess is that the puppy broke the skin looking to nurse and the baby's blood made him want more. I'm NOT saying that the pup was 'blood hungry'. I'm saying that he was probably hungry and thirsty. Answer: I think the thing to remember here is the baby lost toes....whatever the reason you can track it to the parents being negligent. The pup shouldn't be put to sleep as it isn't fair to blame something so young who doesn't know any better. I mean even if it was the dog you can't blame a baby who didn't know any better. Another thing I live in the Shreveport, Bossier area and there are some serious issues with people coming from an alien culture of laziness, apathy, stupidity, etc. Things have become even worse after the New Orleans wipe out as many people from there settled around here. We have increased problems with people robbing places, increased rapes, general petty crimes in general and it really depresses me and after I'm done with some personal issues I may have to relocate. But getting back to the topic, there are some sick people around here so i wouldnt be surprised if there were other things going on there. Answer: 1. The place they were staying was the equivalent to a slum. 2. After the initial vet spoke, more vets stepped up & stated that it would've taken at least 2 hours for that puppy to accomplish the task. 3. Those vets believe that the damage was possibly done by rats. 4. It is believed that the owners were not even home at the time as it is unbelievable that someone could sleep through 2 hours of a screaming & crying infant. With all that said, there has been a case like this before where a child's foot had to be amputated because a Jack Russell mix chewed it nearly off. http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2005/August2005/GAIncident0805.pdf Answer: It's a horrible thing that this child experienced such a traumatic incident. It is so unnecessary if proper care is provided. The parents should pay for their negligence. I would have posted the same things as I did earlier, NO matter which BREED it was. I've read cases of rat damage done to infants so it was a logical reason to suspect this case was the same. On one website I visited it said there were over 14 000 cases of rat bites yearly. And people lie to save their butt, so how can we believe the parents? I try to see the whole picture and think things through to possible conclusions. I NEVER trust what is written in the papers as they are always written for sale value, not for truth. Is this is a common trait among APBT owners? Maybe so, as we live with trying to separate the truth from the sensationalism in all situations involving our breed, so we end up with an extremely realistic view of things. All in all, the baby suffered needlessly, the parents should pay, and hopefully, the full truth will come out in the wash. Answer: 1. The place they were staying was the equivalent to a slum. 2. After the initial vet spoke, more vets stepped up & stated that it would've taken at least 2 hours for that puppy to accomplish the task. 3. Those vets believe that the damage was possibly done by rats. 4. It is believed that the owners were not even home at the time as it is unbelievable that someone could sleep through 2 hours of a screaming & crying infant. With all that said, there has been a case like this before where a child's foot had to be amputated because a Jack Russell mix chewed it nearly off. http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2005/August2005/GAIncident0805.pdf But you have to admit the word "pit bull" made for some great headlines :rolleyes: :mad: Answer: i usually avoid these threads. I wish i had avoided this one. I wish i hadn't seen a baby green eyed puppy, still in his toddler stage shivering, that pup was cold...he should be with his mama and asleep in a big pile of his siblings. He should never be cold and alone. THat was bad. I wish i didn't know about a baby that must have screamed to exhaustion. In my heart, knowing puppy teeth so well, i don't believe that puppy could have ground off even tiny tender newborn toes. Punctured repeatedly, but that just isn't the way a 6 week old puppy eats. Their food is soft, if natural, it is regurgitated at that stage, if being human fed, the kibble is soaked, softened, not only that, i beleive that a 6 week old pup would be so terrified by the shrieks (not whales, not boohoos, the shriek of a hurt baby sends most grownups into action..it curdles our blood..it makes us panic) can you imagine what it would have done to that poor pup? WAs he so desperately hungry? None of this makes since to me. RAts on the other hand, really hungry rats can be another story. Sewer rats would know defenseless when they smell it. THey would run in bite and run out, in droves. THis is why i avoid these threads. Now i am stuck with this in my head. TWo victims...TWO...will we ever know what happened to the puppy? I wish i could take it. I have the strongest urge to hold it tight and rock it in my arms. I pray to God that someone adopts that baby, that the baby never has to see what created her in this lifetime. The parents don't deserve the dirt to bury them in. O just can't stand it when the ones to suffer are the babies..it makes me crazy. I pray the baby passed out after the first. I have heard that babies do that, i pray so. Answer: I heard that the city doesnt adopt pit bulls out so it will be euthanized. :( At least it wont be tortured or starved anymore. I hope the parents get the book thrown at them & are never allowed to have any more animals & never allowed to breed themselves again, although I know it will never happen. I too firmly believe weither it be rats or the pup, the parents wernt there when it happened, it would as every has said be impossible, even in a drug induced sleep to not hear a baby screaming for 2 HOURS! Answer: But you have to admit the word "pit bull" made for some great headlines :rolleyes: :mad: Oh yes. The local nightly newscasters had to enunciate the words "pit bull" & say how maybe people should rethink owning them. I sent them a research paper (or so it felt like) & just like the last time I corrected them on something**, an editor wrote me back & told me "oh well, they can say what they want to say on the issue as it was his/her story". :mad: **The previous issue I had written a local newsstation about was when a bullmastiff attacked & severely injured a child in Tennessee, an anchor man had to throw in the statement "That's like a brother breed to those pit bulls so maybe that explained the attack".:rolleyes: I was sooooo pissed! I mean, the Bullmastiff is no more related to the "pit bull" than is the Yorkshire Terrier. I let them have it then but alas I was told that they had the right to throw in whatever they wanted to & no there wouldn't be a correction. Answer: I heard that the city doesnt adopt pit bulls out so it will be euthanized. :( At least it wont be tortured or starved anymore. I hope the parents get the book thrown at them & are never allowed to have any more animals & never allowed to breed themselves again, although I know it will never happen. I too firmly believe weither it be rats or the pup, the parents wernt there when it happened, it would as every has said be impossible, even in a drug induced sleep to not hear a baby screaming for 2 HOURS! I wish the parents had their toes sawed off by a serated knife.....one by one by one............:mad: Answer: Update on the story....hmmmmm, apparently it was NOT the puppy! http://www.katc.com/Global/story.asp?S=5839156 BENTON, La. -- A woman jailed after four of her month-old daughter's toes were gnawed off says it was the family's pet ferret that did it, not their pit bull puppy. "The way the bite marks were on her foot. The ferret being out of its cage. I knew it wasn't the dog," Mary Hansche told KTBS-TV on Tuesday. Hansche, 22, and her husband, Christopher Wayne Hansche, 26, remained jailed in lieu of $50,000 bond each, booked with child desertion and criminal negligence. Their baby has been released from the hospital and is in state custody. The Hansches were asleep on a mattress on the floor and the baby in a carrier next to the mattress when they woke Dec. 10 because she was crying, Bossier City police have said. Attorney Pam Smart said she is waiting for results of a hair analysis to back up the couple's statement that they were not using drugs. "This was an accident, very unfortunate accident. Hindsight is 20-20 and I'm sure the Hansches probably would say we would have done things differently looking back now," Smart said. She also said their bonds are too high for misdemeanors. A bond reduction hearing is scheduled next month. Both pets are in quarantine but show no sign of rabies, officials said. The puppy will remain at the animal control shelter until the court process is completed. Answer: can't wait for the "death to Ferrets" chants, oh wait, they'll probably still want to put down all the pitbulls. Answer: Oh give me a break! Even a ferret would've taken more than a minute to chew off four of that poor little thing's toes. They weren't doing drugs, fine, that's been proven. They must not have even been there ("child desertion"?) because they obviously didn't even SEE it happen, didn't SEE the ferret near the baby. They identified it by bite marks. There is absolutely no way they could have possibly slept through the pained screaming that baby must have been doing. The first story drove me around the bend. Saying a puppy "attacked" a baby is like saying the baby should have fought it off. I hope both the puppy and the baby find good homes. Still something very "off" about this story. Answer: Update on the story....hmmmmm, apparently it was NOT the puppy! http://www.katc.com/Global/story.asp?S=5839156good ,now i can say i never thought that was true.6 week old puppy is a docile little creature more likely to lick the babys toes off!!! hope the little baby is going to be ok...dam that sucks Answer: can't wait for the "death to Ferrets" chants, oh wait, they'll probably still want to put down all the pitbulls. You pit bull lovers never give up....I think from the story it is very clear that the puppy encouraged the ferret to attack. The pit bull apparently didn't actually touch the baby but everyone knows these bloodthirsty beasts have more than one way to kill............. ;) :rolleyes: I wonder how many TV shows will run this story....not many I bet. The worst thing about that update, is it sounded like the people might get the puppy back :yikes: Answer: You pit bull lovers never give up....I think from the story it is very clear that the puppy encouraged the ferret to attack. The pit bull apparently didn't actually touch the baby but everyone knows these bloodthirsty beasts have more than one way to kill............. ;) :rolleyes: I wonder how many TV shows will run this story....not many I bet. The worst thing about that update, is it sounded like the people might get the puppy back :yikes: I wrote both of our local news stations asking very firmly that they do a retraction on the story & at least make some comment to make ammends for one news anchor's comment of "this is just more proof that these dogs are born vicious & have no place in our homes...especially with children". I sent them the article. However, when the news comes on (10:00 pm here), I'll let y'all know the results. But I don't suggest holding your breath for a retraction....... I don't think their is any chance of them getting either animal back. They are facing criminal charges & from what I hear through a rescue person is that both will go up for adoption. But we shall just have to wait & see I guess. Answer: My question is...Why wasn't the ferret mentioned in the original story? If the fact that they had a pet ferret were mentioned in the beginning, this would not have been about the puppy at all. It would have been clear that the puppy didn't do it. Answer: The ferret was mentioned in a subsequent story. http://www.ktbs.com/news/local/4877961.html Police: Which animal attacked baby is secondary to behavior of parents Video High Whether it was a pit bull puppy or another animal that gnawed off a baby's toes is insignificant to proving the alleged negligence of the child's parents, a Bossier City police spokesman said Tuesday. Mary Shannon Hansche, 22, and Christopher Wayne Hansche, 26, told Bossier City police they awoke Sunday morning to find their month-old daughter crying and her toes gnawed off. Police believe the couple's six-week-old pit bull puppy did it -- although veterinarians have questioned whether a dog that small was capable. A ferret was also in the house but the couple said that animal was in a cage, police said. The Hansches this afternoon were jailed under $50,000 bond each on misdemeanor charges of child desertion. They were scheduled to make their initial court appearances via closed-circuit Tuesday. The child underwent surgery at Sutton Children's Hospital in Shreveport. Doctors could not reattach her toes, police said. Officials at animal control said Tuesday they have received about 15 calls and half a dozen e-mails from people wanting to adopt the dog. Police Department spokesman Mark Natale said officials will meet after the 10-day quarantine period and decide whether the dog should be offered for adoption, euthanized or returned to its owners. Police Department spokesman Mark Natale said police have concluded their investigation. He said they believe the puppy attacked the child, although the actions of the parents -- not the animal -- are the central part of the case. Police said the Hansches have told several different stories about what happened. Natale said the couple is charged with child desertion for allegedly putting their baby in a dangerous situation. Police said the couple told investigators they slept as the six-week-old puppy chewed off four of their month-old daughter's toes and did not wake up in time. The couple was asleep on a mattress on the living room floor and the baby was nearby in an child seat. They said they woke to the sound of their baby crying and took her to the hospital. Police also seized a ferret in the house. The couple told investigators the ferret was in a cage, and police said they don't believe it attacked the child. Natale said the negligence charges apply because the child was under the age of 10 and was exposed to a danger from which she could not protect herself. Teresa Miller, who sold the puppy to the Hansches, was skeptical the dog did it. "He didn't chew on anything while he was with me. Out of all of them (in the litter), he was the least chewy." Local veterinarian Dr. Valri Brown said if the puppy chewed off the infant's toes, it would not have happened quickly. "It would have to be a period of time -- maybe at least an hour," she said. The child will be placed in a foster home when she is released from the hospital. Story Created: Dec 10, 2006 at 9:14 PM EST Story Updated: Dec 12, 2006 at 6:00 PM EST Why does it matter that it wasn't mentioned in the first story? The media got the attention of the readers with the APBT pup, they didn't need the ferret until they wanted to sell more papers. And when the ferret was mentioned, it was caged not running free. And they again gained more sales with it now being the ferrets fault. When it comes to the media, you MUST think outside of the box. Sensationalism runs rampant through their group. What sells is the most important to them, not the truth. As I've said before, there are always three side to every story, your side, my side, and the absolute truth. Now, an update on the poor baby's condition would be nice. I sincerely hope that she will not remember the trauma she experienced.:( Answer: I hear ya DryCreek. My question was slightly rhetorical. I had a hard time believing it was the puppy and if it was the puppy he had to have been starved. The bottom line here is that these people are not good parents or animal owners (obviously). It breaks my heart how many people don't care. I see it on a regular basis with the puppies that I foster. It's just so sad. Answer: The story I read said that the mom is now accusing the ferret, but the father still blames the puppy. Either way, it's a sad situation. Answer: The saddest part of it is knowing these people have the capability of reproducing again :( (or even buying another pet) I foster/volunteer as well and I try to remind myself that a lot of people around here dont care about their children so why should I expect them to care about their animals? Answer: Sensationalism runs rampant through their group. What sells is the most important to them, not the truth. :( :hail: Well said... Answer: I see no reason to suspect that rats were to blame. Just because someone's mattress is on the floor does not mean that they're dwelling is rat infested. It amazes me some of the things pit bull people find to try and take the blame off of their breed even when it is a situation like this that is CLEARLY the owner's fault. All puppies should be confined for their own safety let alone the safety of others. I have YET to even hear of a puppy that is mean or aggressive. Why are you automatically assuming that its only "pit bull people" that are trying to take the blame off the breed? Alot of people have spoken up in this thread that don't even own pit bulls... Anyways...this story seems very odd to me anyways..I personally don't even think it was the dog...I don't care what breed it was..and to be honest..the fact that the media even bothered stating the breed was just stupid...now people are going to think that pit bulls are born vicious..and at 6 weeks old have the capacity to devour a kid's foot :rolleyes: it would take alot longer than one hour to bite off toes like that...and a dog that can't talk is easy to blame. I think the parents were up to something...if a child is screaming its head off..its hard not to notice...especially if you're living in an apartment (I think that's what I read in the article, correct me if I'm wrong)...its not like they had to travel across twelve yards of hallway to reach the kid...this whole story just makes no sense. Answer: Honestly, a puppy chewing off 1 month old infant toes is a complete possibilty in my mind. When my daughter was 1 month old, her toes were the size of a pencil eraser. Some puppies are strong chewers at 6 weeks and little tiny toes are pretty soft. I don't think this has anything to do with the dog being a pitbull. I think any breed would be capable of this. It's just a puppy doing what puppies do. The puppy didn't know what it was chewing. As far as the parents not waking up to the crying who knows. They could have been on drugs, alcohol or at 1 month post-partum, extremely exhausted and slow to react. I just feel very, very sorry for this baby. AND the puppy who will once again be a victim of irresponsible breeding practices and dog ownership. Who lets a 6 week old pup loose while they sleep :yikes: Answer: I think any breed would be capable of this I posted a link a few posts ago, as this type of scenario actually has happened. A JRT mix actually chewed off most of a 2 mo. old's foot which then had to be amputated. Answer: There was a news show....the pit bull puppy DID NOT chew off the baby's toes. A ferret did. Here's the link. http://www.katc.com/Global/story.asp?S=5839156 Answer: Basically , who gives a **** if it was the puppy , the ferret or a rat ! The concern should be about the baby and the parents neglect . Answer: Basically , who gives a **** if it was the puppy , the ferret or a rat ! The concern should be about the baby and the parents neglect . it'd be great to live in a world where this kind of thing didn't happen. it'd be great to live in a world where the concern would be just about the baby and the parents neglect. but we don't. the media has made a conscious effort to demonize a particular breed of dog and used false information to do so, whether they intended to or not. while it's sad about the little baby toes, i think an effort should be made to sway the public's opinion away from equating pit bull puppies to severed baby parts. Answer: the media has made a conscious effort to demonize a particular breed of dog and used false information to do so, whether they intended to or not. while it's sad about the little baby toes, i think an effort should be made to sway the public's opinion away from equating pit bull puppies to severed baby parts. :hail: Good post! Answer: Basically , who gives a **** if it was the puppy , the ferret or a rat ! The concern should be about the baby and the parents neglect . I agree. I think both parents should spend a long time in jail & be sterilized to boot......without anesthesia.:mad: |
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