Muggsies sick!

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 hi everyone! I am soo worried! Muggsies not doing good at all, He has not eaten much today, and now he's bleeding from the back side! Now it is not a little blood a whole lot! I am taking him too the emergancy clinic right now!
Please pray that it is not bad, we all know at his age he can become sick! I know that he girls have not caused this. I am just scared for my boy! So if you have time please send up a doggie prayer for my Muggsies! I would really appreciate it! Fran!

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Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry.
Sending my very best healing vibes, and good health prayers for muggsie
How old is he? Please keep us informed, and the very best of luck for him at the vet

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I wish Muggsies the best! It sounds like you are doing everything possible!
And keep us updated! :)

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I'm hoping for the best for you two... please keep us updated!

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Hoping for the best. There is a slight chance that it is anxiety-related because of the new puppies. Hopefully it's not serious!

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Well, John and I just returned from the after hours clinic, I am so glad it is only 5 min'ts away! The vet is very concerned for my old man! It does not look good!
The vet said something on the lines of a ruptured bowl, or something internal was going on. So they put him on Iv's and kept him for the night!
We all knew something was going too happen to my old dog, I am so upset I can't even think! I even screwed up his age at the vets, he is twelve going on 13. I said he was 13 going on 14. I don't know I am to upset to want too know!
It's so crazy life that is! One day so happy, and another so crazy! I guess thats life and thats called growing old! I just want everything to go right! First my grandson, now this! What next Lord? What next?
Thanx everyone for being so nice, I would be lost with out your well wishes, and prayer's for my dog Muggsies! I am going to crawl in my bed and cry, cry like a little baby! That is the only way, I know how to releave my pain!:(

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I feel so for you and Muggsies !!! Please keep us posted !! Glad John's there for you .

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Oh, I am so very sorry Fran. My heart goes out to you. This is such a hard time for you. My thoughts are with you and hope things will look up for you soon.
((((hugs))))

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Awww I'm sorry sweetheart! I hope he gets better :(
Go ahead and cry as much as you need to. That's the way to let it all out. It's normal, and ok to cry. I will cry a little for you, too
I hope you, and he will be ok. I'm so sorry to hear about this.
Dulce, Friskie and I will be thinking about you tonight.

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I'm sorry. :(
I will be lifting up you and yours in prayers tonight. <3

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Well I just got off the phone with the er clinic! Muggsies not doing well, at all! There's a problem with his white blood count! I should know what that means, but I am too much in shock!:yikes: :(
They have checked his kidney's, and bladder too, it just does not look good for my buddy and freind.:( Dr. Roy is being so nice, as well as the tec's. I told them it does not matter what it costs me too find out what the problem is, but to be kind enough too tell me when he is suffering, so that we John and I can do what is right by him.
I really think, God is amazing though! He sent John too find these two girls for me, and he did! I never asked him too, but God did. The thing about it is, I think and correct me if I am wrong, Muggsies feels better too. What I mean is, he knows that I have a new person in my life, and the girls to step in where he left off!
I know I may be jumping the gun, but I just have this gut feeling that I will not be having my freind for too much longer! I feel it in my bones that Muggsies not going to come home ever again!:(
I will do what is best for him, I will not ever let him suffer, nope not ever! What a time for this, Christmas! Well at least I can say I had him in my life for a real long time, and I can hold him in my heart forever too. I am just getting myself ready for our last moments! I guess it's all a part of life!
Thank you all for loving me enough to go through this with me. God knows where all of your hearts are, and that is the best thing for a old lady that has too make that hard decision! Love ya freinds!

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Oh I am so very sorry. :(
May God give you the strength to do what you must... we Chazzers are here for you. ((hugs))

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Awwww we love you too!!
I know you'll make the right decision. Muggs will tell you too. You'll know when it's time. :)

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I'm so so sorry. This is just horrible :(

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Oh I am so very sorry. :(
May God give you the strength to do what you must... we Chazzers are here for you. ((hugs))
Thank you soo much! I am feeling so alone, and afraid but I know I should not! Muggsies been such a freind too me, for all of these yrs. It's just tearing me apart!
I just seem to go through so many differant emotions, crying, thinking, loving, hating you know what I mean! But as always, I must be strong!
Missy, and Sissy are so sweet, they just sit in front of me, and paw at me, then jump on the couch, and comfort me! They are just new here, but have adapted soo well! God blessed me with Mugs, and has blessed me with these two shining faces:) and little hearts too.
I just do not want too take it out on them, when I have to let my man goo! Lord, give me strength! Thank you for being so kind! I have found that all of you, have the heart, the understanding and love to make the world go around!:cool:

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Well, the e r clinic just called! :yikes: Muggsies has taken a turn for the worse! I have too go, too see my man! I am sooooo tired, but I have too consider him right now.
This is just happening tooo fast! How time fly's, and we just do not understand, and take advantage of life sometimes! Well, I guess I better go, I will send you all the info I can when I come back! I really do not want to make the wrong choice, so again I ask that you all send the prayer, for strength! Fran!

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**PRAYER & STRENGTH** Good luck :)I know you'll make the right desicision

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Well everyone! My Muggsies is gone!:yikes: :( Please bear with me, as I make mistakes with this post!
As soon as I and John arrived at the E R clinic, the vet and the tec's pulled me aside! They were so comforting, and wonderful!
What Dr. Roy told us was, Muggsies Kidney's had started to shut down, and it was there for awhile. We did not notice it, because, he did not show it, or any signs till now!
The bleeding from the back side was just another, side affect of his condition, They always say these big word's and your too upset too understand. Well, what had brought this out come was the excitment of his new pal's at home! Not that it was a bad thing at all, it was just something that would have happened!
Muggsies was like a little pup again when the girls came in the door, he played with them, as best he could, He licked them and loved them! So according too the Vet he did accept the girls, and it was his time too goo!
I went in too see my boy, he looked up at me, with that loving kindness in his eye's. As if too say hey mom, It's Okay, I can go now we have had our time together, and now you can have your time with the girls! Dame this was soo hard!
I stood there, crying and holding my freind for the very last time, he mustered a good bye kiss, and licked one of my tears away, as he always did in the past! This was his good bye love too me!
John, held me as I patted my buddy on the head! Telling Muggsies its okay, you can go too sleep now! The vet and the Tec's did their job, and Mugs was gone in seconds!
They left John and I in the room for a few min'ts and I held my boy one last time. This time was not the same as the other's, but I knew he was not suffering any more!
I just can not beleive how fast this all happened! Yesterday, Muggsies, was plugging along, and having a grand old time. Today, he's gone! I hate being an old prude, and dumping on you all like this! But no one knows or understands like dog lover's do!
We paid the bill, and boy was it a big one! Muggsies was worth, his weight in Gold, and my Gold card felt it! I am sorry, I just needed to make a small joke, to make my self laugh! Muggsies was worth the $2000.00 bill, He was there when I was happy, there when I was sad, there just for me, as I was there for him!
I have agreed to have Mugs creamated, and when I am ready I will spead his ashes all over the hills and tree's and tell him he's free!
Thank all of you for caring so much for this wacked out old lady, that just lost her best freind! I am so glad I have you too hear me, and you too help me through this! Tomorrow will be another day! Oh I mean today, I will have too tell the kids and the grand kids! Wow another tear jerker!:(

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I feel so bad for you and for Muggsie. I am keeping my fingers crossed for you. Keep us updated. Tears don't help but sometimes they are the only way a heart can talk.

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I am very sorry for your loss.
Julie.

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I am soooo very sorry for your sadness and your loss. ((((HUGS))))

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Thank you, all of you! This has been a hard night, and I am sure there will be many! Muggsies up in heaven now, looking down on me with a smile! He's saying thanks mom, I enjoyed your love, and I loved giving you love, be happy and stay in love!
Now that's the way I look at my boy for now, he's resting in peace!
Now then the girls, they are really getting into trouble! I am too tired to worry about it, We will get that fixed soon. I am going back too bed. Talk too all of you soon!

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Porr Mugsie. THere ought to be a better way to end a grand life. I am sorry for your loss.

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Big hugs to you and R.I.P Muggsies . I feel your pain , Fran . My Chip went so quickly too . No time to really prepare . He'll be waiting for you .

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I'm so sorry for your loss.. RIP Muggsies

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A-w-w-w....Fran, I am so sorry and sad for you. It's the worst darn thing about having pets. The only consolation can be that he no longer feels crummy, which he probably did there at the end. He was saved from further discomfort. We all have to go through this, probably several times during our life as long as we have dogs. I know...I've been through it a few and just lost my Lab about a year ago....liver disease. I still miss her a lot but the pain and sharpness of it has eased up. You get more accepting as a little time goes by. I want that for you because it helps. Love your other little dogs and let them give you strength. They're good at that. You're lucky to have them. It sure helps when we lose our friends to have other friends close to us.
My thoughts are with you Fran and if I were there, I'd give you a real hug. Hang in there and cry all you need to. It's good for you.

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Wow, that happened SO FAST. Warm thoughts going your way...

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Ohh (((((Hugs)))))) This even has me crying, I am very sorry for you loss, and I to know what it feels liek to lose someone who was so close to you.... RIP Old boy.

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I'm so sorry. :(
I hope that you will soon be able to find peace and comfort in the fact that he is smiling down on you, thanking you for all that you did for him. He is running free now.. RIP Muggsies.

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I am so very sorry for your loss. I have been in your position more than a few times and I know how painful it is. They take a piece of our hearts with them, that they do! But they also leave a piece of theirs behind! And please remember that for your dog to reach such a stately age, you surely must have done things right for him throughout his lifetime. For all the pain associated with losing them, it is still worth it for what they leave us with inside.

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All of you are so wonderful! I feel like God extened, the best family an old lady could get! That is all of you Chazer's! I am so amazed with all of you, I pray that God Blesses you all each and everyday!
We just had the kids over, and we gave them the news. Everyone is crying, everyone loved that boy!
My daugher, feels that I should only have one of the Standards, she thinks it is too much on me, too have two of them! I told her that my good freind felt that I could and I can not seperate them now! I will not even consider it!
Wow there is always one, that is and has that negitive! No matter and no worries. Missy and Sissy are staying! DONE!
I told her that the two of them will be spayed, in two months, and that she will have no worries! Then I get BUT MOM! Yep here we go!
I told Barb: Enough I do not want too talk about it, and won't! She just does not understand. Not the time or the place!:spam:

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Oh Fran,
I am so sorry your Muggsie is gone. When it is fast we have so little time to prepare but maybe after all that's better than months of illness and worry. I am so glad you had the chance to be with your dear old friend at the end and I'm sure he was waiting for you for that reason. Now he'll watch over you and the girls as they grow into the huge place he has made for them in your heart.
Love and peace, sweetheart.

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No, it's not the time or the place....all that planning...too much thinking. But I'm sure they mean well. Just say that right now you need both of your dogs with you and you can handle it, that that is what will keep you strong and feel purposeful, that you need them and they make you happy....and that you'll be OK. That's all you can say and then don't enter into it again with them....just "ignore." (like training anything. LOL) You're going to be all right.
What I found soothing was when I started to feel a little better and over the initial shock with losing my Lab, I posted some pictures and some stories and some of the happy memories with that dog...all the horsey rides she took with me, the way she wandered over to the neighbors and hung out on their porch and how the neighbors scolded me when I'd come to take her home. LOL. How she lay on a neighbor's lawn while their chickens wandered around and one hen would peck at her nose and she just thumped her tail...didn't try to eat the chickens. They loved her and told me to go away when I'd go to fetch her. Anyhow.....all that will help after things level out just a little. So, if you feel like it, share your happy times. It brings them back a little closer into your heart again. Things will get better. You won't always feel this way.
(((hugs)))

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Wow! Again I can not express my happiness with all of you! Dobluv, your right, I will do that. I do not have pic's too send on the computer, as I do not have one of those fancy camera's and he's gone now!
But I think I can muster up the strength to tell you some tails about him, just on another day!
I talked too John and he's going to buy me a fancy camera, that way I can share my girls with you! They are so amazing, and cute! They just want my attention all the time! So that is a wonderful thing for me right now too.
Missy, got into the garbage this morning, and Sissy sat back and watched! It was so funny! That look on Sissy's face, hey Sis your gona get intoo trouble!:lol-sign:
Both John and I had too hold ourself's from cracking up, I took the stuff from Missy and said; Now young lady, that is a No No! She sat right down and shook her left front pay at me, at the same time she tilled her head! Sorry!:hail:
So ya it has been a long and drawn out day, I just put the girls in their crates, and I am going to get a tea, and just do nothing!
I love how you all are so caring, I wish that I could do something for all of you! The only thing I can do is send you a love hug back. Fran!

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Awwww ((((hugs))))
I can't help crying when I hear that another dog has gone to the bridge. It's just so hard. Glad you had time to say goodbye, and give a big cuddle to the girls from me///
RIP Muggsie.

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Oh, Fran . . . that's hard . . . My big Bear went quickly like that too, and took his last breath in my arms. ((((((((HUGS)))))))))
Dober's right. It does help to go back and tell stories about our beloved ones, and I will be looking forward to hearing The Tales of Muggsie someday in the not too distant future . . .

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I hope your boy gets better soon you will be in our prayers.
Rhonda

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Okay, her goes! Now this is going to be hard! But I will tell you about our first day!
Muggsies, as stated was bought for me from the kids, and when they brought him too me, I was a kid in a candy store! His cute little silver face, with those peircing brown eye's such a glow of life and mischeif!
That day, I spoiled him, and spoiled him rotten! OOOPS! Everyone told me not too but I had too. So Mugs first night was in bed with me! He snuggled right up like he belonged there too!
Well Go figure! Big mistake, Muggsies was too small to get off the big bed, and had an accident! Boy was I mad at my self! But hey couldn't get mad at him! I got up, and changed the bedding, then went and found the crate the kids bought, placed it in my room, to guess what hear him squeal like a little piglet the rest of the night!
I am not sure, but I think it would take about 4 days for him to get over it!:lol-sign: But we all worked it out together! He was such a amazing dog, he was more than human too me!
Now he did not grow too big, which I felt was a good thing, but into trouble! Yup all the time, if he did not chew, my shoes, my socks, the corner's of my chairs, get into the garbage. Just all and everything! I was praying for the day, he would grow up! Wow! Now that was many moons ago!
Muggies first groom! He was 4 months old, and he had that hair all over the place! He had wings all over the place, but too me it was cute! I did bath him on a regular basis, but hair cuts I would not even consider doing! So off he went too the groomer's. That was our first time being seperated for 4 hours. I could hardly wait for my man too come home!
Well, what a differance when he did come home too! So pretty, with those fancy bows and all! How long did that last? 2 min'ts and out they came!
Muggsies hid for a few hours too, he was ashamed of his new look! Nope no one is going too see me like this! Gone under the bed he was!
Hey, this is good but I am crying too much now! I will leave it alone, When I feel more relaxed I will send more stories of my man! Muggsies! His registered name " MUGGSIES 16 SHOES" Why did I call him that? He ate 16 pairs of my fancy shoes!:yikes: :lol-sign:

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Fran .... My Mother always said " One increasing purpose ". For John to come into your life at this time and bring you your new girls . Enjoy your new life and do share stories with us . And yes, it's amazing when our children treat us oldsters as children . We old broads know what we're doing !

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I'm so very sorry for your loss. (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))) )))))))))

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Fran .... My Mother always said " One increasing purpose ". For John to come into your life at this time and bring you your new girls . Enjoy your new life and do share stories with us . And yes, it's amazing when our children treat us oldsters as children . We old broads know what we're doing !
Oh yes, bubatd: You are so right in both areas! God sent me a new man too love, he told that new man to get me my two girls! He did! Then Mugs got sick and died! God is too amazing, he know's what too do, who to send and when!
Well then we all know about the kids. Barb is worried: Why? Well if something happens to me, who's gona take the dogs? OH UHMMM GRRRRRRRRRR! It is not bad enough that I have gone through enough trama to have her say something like that! I did put her in her place, and asked her to leave! That was so hard, but I needed my space! John stayed and comforted me!
Now we know that is another story where the kids come in! Tell ya about it some day. But no not now!
Well John has just brought the girls in from out side, he wants to take me out for dinner! Okay I do not have too cook! I am gone! Love ya freind! We yung'ns can handle the world can't we bubbatd?:hail: :lol-sign:

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Fran, you sound like such a character! What state do you live in?
I have to remember what you and bubbatd say when I'm dealing with my mom. She is a very strong-willed senior, I'll tell you that! My sister and I have to bite our tongues and remember that she is our mother and not the other way around! We start to worry for our parents as they get older like they are our kids, but you can't ever EVER disrespect your mother even if you disagree about something.

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I am so very sorry! ((((((((hugs)))))))))

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I wish that I could do something for all of you!
You know what you can do for us? Just pamper yourself right now. Be as physically comfortable as you can; a hot bath, hot tea (or something stronger)LOL. And just reflect. Don't try to share stories now if it's hurts and it probably does. I know how you feel, typing away, the tears probably rolling down your cheeks, a lump and pressure in your chest. Give yourself a little time. Wrap up in a blanket and veg out in front of the TV with your dogs. And come and hang out here on Chaz with your friends. When you feel a little stronger and have that feeling that you want to talk, share stories, then do. Don't feel like you have to though. Things will get easier after a bit.

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Well I just got off the phone with the er clinic! Muggsies not doing well, at all! There's a problem with his white blood count! I should know what that means, but I am too much in shock!:yikes: :(
They have checked his kidney's, and bladder too, it just does not look good for my buddy and freind.:( Dr. Roy is being so nice, as well as the tec's. I told them it does not matter what it costs me too find out what the problem is, but to be kind enough too tell me when he is suffering, so that we John and I can do what is right by him.
I really think, God is amazing though! He sent John too find these two girls for me, and he did! I never asked him too, but God did. The thing about it is, I think and correct me if I am wrong, Muggsies feels better too. What I mean is, he knows that I have a new person in my life, and the girls to step in where he left off!
I know I may be jumping the gun, but I just have this gut feeling that I will not be having my freind for too much longer! I feel it in my bones that Muggsies not going to come home ever again!:(
I will do what is best for him, I will not ever let him suffer, nope not ever! What a time for this, Christmas! Well at least I can say I had him in my life for a real long time, and I can hold him in my heart forever too. I am just getting myself ready for our last moments! I guess it's all a part of>>>>>>>>
I am so sorry and I know what you are going thru.
Two years ago on December 16th my 12 year old Collie (Timmie) passed away.
No, Christmastime isn't the best time for this to take place. But I told myself that no time would have been a better time (for me) to have him pass away.
My thoughts are with you.

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Thank you, thank all of you! Dobluv, I will take your advise and go to bed. I am hanging on to Muggsies, stuffed toy. I holds his smell, and his love! So that is what I am going to do! Just nothing!

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Fran ... sorry people don't read the whole thread ! Sigh ! Anyway gal , it's good to have you here ! Hope you don't mind me letting the cat out of the bag and telling we're only 6 months apart age wise ! LOL! Won't say who's older . You weren't here when I had to put my Chip to sleep in July . It was my first time in an empty house in 60 years . I too took Chip's favorite toy to bed and wept 1/2 the night until something told me to go on Petfinder and there was my Ollie. That was early a.m. Thursday morning ... I got him on Friday .

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Fran ... sorry people don't read the whole thread ! Sigh ! Anyway gal , it's good to have you here ! Hope you don't mind me letting the cat out of the bag and telling we're only 6 months apart age wise ! LOL! Won't say who's older . You weren't here when I had to put my Chip to sleep in July . It was my first time in an empty house in 60 years . I too took Chip's favorite toy to bed and wept 1/2 the night until something told me to go on Petfinder and there was my Ollie. That was early a.m. Thursday morning ... I got him on Friday .
Hey bubbatd!
I appreciate having you as a freind! Yes we are only 6 months apart, and I will tell everyone! I am the older of the two of us! But no matter! I do not feel my age any more than you do! Right freind?:lol-sign:
I am so glad that things turned out the way they did. With my two new girls, and then Muggsies going so fast! I really could not have lived with myself, if he'd have died and had no one here to comfort me!
sure I have John, but we all know what men are like at times!:yikes:
It has been a long and drawn out day! Almost a whole 24 hrs since his passing, but as we Old People say! THIS TOO SHALL PASS!:cool:
I will always hold my dear old freind, deep in my heart, nothing will ever take his place. I am so happy that God sent me girls this time, that way I would not have to worry about, making a mistake when calling the dog! I will state this, I am thinking of changing Missy's name! It's just too close too Muggsies!
So if anyone has a great name for a apricot female with a fancy attitude, send me a name for her!

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Missy is a standard poodle, right? I'll just list names I like for dogs:
Gretchen
Alice
Simone
Hilda
Bonnie (my late choc. Lab's name)
Olivia (Liv for short)
Emily (my daughter's name)
Gabriella (Gabby)
Ginger (one of my past dog's names)
Lilly
Priscilla (one of my more feminine cat's names)
If you don't like people names for dogs, we'll go back to the drawing board.

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Missy is a standard poodle, right? I'll just list names I like for dogs:
Gretchen
Alice
Simone
Hilda
Bonnie (my late choc. Lab's name)
Olivia (Liv for short)
Emily (my daughter's name)
Gabriella (Gabby)
Ginger (one of my past dog's names)
Lilly
Priscilla (one of my more feminine cat's names)
If you don't like people names for dogs, we'll go back to the drawing board.
Hey Dobluv:
I really like the name Ginger, that really suits her! She has this red tinge in her fur, that shines to bright! So I think I am going to call her Ginger Snap!:lol-sign:
Now Sissie's a little too plain, now that her sister has a fancy name! So here we go again! Sissie's a white standard poodle but a wee bit smaller than, Ginger Snap!

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Oh good. So Ginger snap....One down, one to go.:popcorn:
Arabella (means beautiful) Dutch
Star
Joy
Sugar (not very original, but it's white....lol)
Aphrodite (Greek godess of love)
Ophelia was named after the daughter of Polonius in Shakespeare's play Hamlet. Ophelia is one of the smaller moons in the Solar System and is the second innermost known moon of Uranus. It has a diameter of 16 kilometers and is 53,760 kilometers from the center of Uranus. Ophelia acts as the outer shepherd satellite for Uranus' epsilon ring.
Ok....so they're a little different....you don't want plain, right? LOL.

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It has to be another cookie !!

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OK Grammy. You said it. So, what's a good cookie name for a dog? It has to be a white cookie. LOL.
I've got it! Snickerdoodle, the Poodle. (sort of long for a dog's name)
Divinity (also long but it's white)
Ok....your turn.

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I tried to think of white cookies ...did think of Snickerdoodle though ! Snickers . Macaroons , petticoats , snowballs , meringues just didn't hit it ! Wish it was a chocolate poodle !

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Well, if I ever get a girl Poodle, (which is tempting) I will name her Simone. LOL.

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Snowdrop?
OH!!! Madeleine! :)

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Oh you gal's are so fun!:hail: Now the thing I have notice about Missy is this, she'sss sneekie! You never know when she's around the corner or intoo something, but yet very protective!
My freind came over today and gave me a sympathy card, and Roses! So nice! But this little white big Poodle to be would not let her in the house!:yikes: :lol-sign:
So Snicker's sounds like her, but I need something too follow through with the end of her name! Like Muggsies 16 Shoes cause he ate my shoes, Ginger Snap because she's soft and beautiful!
So I am thinking Snicker because she's sneeKIe but what to put at the end?

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Ginger Snap and Snicker Doodle ? :D
Opps...Just saw that Grammy (Bubbatd) already said that.
Okay just read more DoberLuv said it first........
I think. :D

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Okay everyone: This is Missies new name! This will be on her registeration papers. Fran's Sneekie Snicker's. What do ya think?

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Sounds just loverly, Fran!

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Cute!

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I am so sorry for your loss :(

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Sounds great !!! Really I don't think they care ... as long as you love them , which you do ! I hope your pain is easing with Muggsie's passing . At our age we've lost so many close to our hearts .... it never gets easier , but maybe we accept reality more and can move on better . I can remember when I heard of my dear cousin's death and dreaded telling my Mom of her only niece's passing ... very unexpectedly. In her 80s , she took it in her stride , where as I in my 60s was devastated . Do we accpet fate better as we age ? I know I used to weep and feel for my lose .... now I pray and thank the dear Lord they were in my life .

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Hey thank you everyone! I really love the name too! It truly suits her!
Yes bubbadt, I know exactly what you mean about death. John just told me his freind died. Wow! What a week, I lost my Mugs, and now John loses Fred! We have been too the funeral home today, and they will be buring him Monday!
What a week, the two girls have been so cuddled, while I have been home, then have been placed in that God forsaken crate! I can't wait till they can have the full run of the house!
But as we all know that comes with time! The thing is they just amuse themselves, all the time! Boy toys do seem to work!
I do have one prob though, and that is when they are loose, and playing around the get a little excited and have accidents!
You all know I have had a few dogs in my day, but two young ones at once is strange too me!
So I need a few suggestions! I would appreciate everyone's in put! I just don't want to have too seperate them all the time!

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I do have one prob though, and that is when they are loose, and playing around the get a little excited and have accidents!
Do you have a fenced yard? Everytime they get playing too wildly, I'd put them outside to play. Interrupt/distract them when they get too roudy inside and teach them "settle." When they quiet down, that's when you praise and use your cue word, "settle." Later, once they've made the association between settling down and the cue word, you'll be able to try it out while they're rough housing. But until then, use it only when they actually stop.
I have that rule in the house that there's no rough housing. I do end up tolerating a small amount but at a certain point, out they go if I think they're just too full of energy or I'll tell them, "settle."
It's not easy when you have multiple dogs at times. Be sure they're getting plenty of hard exericse outside so they are a little worn out when they're inside.
I'm so sorry about your husband's friend....definitely a tough week. I hope you're feeling a little bit better.

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yes we have a fenced in yard, they get so wild out there, but then come in so full of mud!
We are thinking of cutting an area, in the yard just for them, placing fancy stone work on the ground, and a shelter over top. That way they can go right out, with out getting wet, and the area will be attached to the back door. So when I am too tired, they can go in and out! that way I do not have so much mud too worry about!
Last night they had the whole house a mess, they got into the tiolet paper:yikes: I took that away and said now girl your mom needs that! The two of them sat down and left it alone!
They are very intellegent, girls so I think it is just me, and the works of this week. I am pretty sure they are doing alot of it to get my attention too!
One question, whats the longest you should leave them out doors? They are not micro chipped when should I get that done?
I do not believe that Mugs was micro chipped but was tattoed! What is the differance?

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How old are they? You've probably mentioned it, but I forgot. I don't know much about the tatooing, but with the microchipping, there's a network whereby if they get lost or stolen and someone finds them or they're taken to a vet or shelter, they can be scanned and your name and information comes up on a computer so they can contact you and you get your dog back. Anytime is fine to get it done and in my experience, the dog didn't even feel it....even less than a shot. It could vary between dogs though, I suppose.
If your dogs are not at the stage where they're apt to get into something which can hurt them, then I'd leave them out until they ask to come back in. If they're still young and into mischief, I'd keep an eye on them. By the sound of the toilet paper episode, it sounds like some kind of supervision would be indicated.
Your yard idea sound great if the rocks won't bother them or if they won't eat them. LOL. Some dogs will do just about anything to make us worry. LOL. Is there some way they can get some good running in their daily routine? I mean even more than romping and wrestling? Do they get walks away from home? It seems that all that really helps to settle dogs down when they're inside.
Do you have pictures you can post of your girls? That would be awesome.
I know you must be sad and down trodden these days. Just want you to know I'm thinking of you.

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Thank you Dobluv you are soo sweet! It has been a weard and upsetting week.
The girls are 4 months old, Snickers so much smaller than Ginger! She looks like a minature Poodle rather than, a standard.
The fenced in area, John is going too place cinder blocks, but pretty ones, I just messed up with what I was trying to say earlier!:lol-sign:
I have to buy a special camera so I can place some pic's of the girl's. I am hoping that some one in the family thinks of that for Christmas! You know how old people love their kids, and their pic's!:yikes:
I have pulled out Muggsies pictures so many times this week, I miss him soo! I know if anyone could have worked the bugs out of these girls is would have been him. He was good at that! He corrected the great grand kids at times.
Mugs was a gentle soul, but sure knew what needed to be done and when. You know I forget, alot about this kids stuff, I mean the growing puppy stuff.
Been through it so many times, but when you just get them, (girls) then your bestest buddy leaves the same day! There's a lot of shock and over whelming stuff going on in your head, and heart!
I am working on the kids, (4 legged ones) they seem to be learning real quick and that is a great thing! We took them for a ride down too the doggie park and they had a great time until that weard guy came up!
I put that on another post, I was so scared, I did not know what that guy wanted with my dogs! But John took care of it for me! He is just the best man any old lady could have! Thanks for your love and understanding Dobluv you are just wonderful! FranQ!:cool:

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Oh.....just babies. Well, outside, as long as you really keep an eye on them, I'd think they'd be fine until they want to come in or you don't want to watch them anymore. They are pretty young to leave unattended. You just never know.....
I know what you mean about forgetting stages. I've had loads of puppies and I often forget how previous ones were at different ages. Of course, they vary.
Muggsie sounds like a phenomenal dog. I know you'll keep him close to your heart forever with wonderful memories. I know, I do with my past dogs.
If you have a scanner, you can post snap shots too from a regular camera. I just got a digital recently and it's a lot of fun.
I missed your post about the scary guy. I'll try to find it. Wow!
I'm glad if I and your other Chaz-cyber friends can help to cheer you up a tad and help out anyway we can. Most of us have been through it and there's no easy way to get feeling better except with time and a little help from your friends. Hope John is hanging in there....such a sad time.

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With you as to training the youngsters again !!! Ollie sure keeps me on my toes !

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With you as to training the youngsters again !!! Ollie sure keeps me on my toes !
Yes but it seems too keep us young!:hail: I would be so lost with out them!
We just came back from visiting my grandson Jessy! He had a hard night with the kemo. I do not know how to spell it! I wish this would end for him!
He is so devistated, but I guess that comes with the territory! Cancer is not the nicest let it be with an adult a young adult or a kid! It's all about life isn't it?

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I just read this and am so sorry to hear about Muggsies. I can tell how much love the two of you had for each other. Muggsies is in peace now and no longer in pain. He will be in your heart forever and watching over you.

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Keep us posted on Jessy ! My second cousin is going though Chemo too ......no fun !

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Keep us posted on Jessy ! My second cousin is going though Chemo too ......no fun !
Thanks freind, he has had it so rough! I wish I could bring the girls to meet him! Or bring him here! Nope not allowed!
Can you beleive that Jessy wants a dog so bad, and can not have one! Can you beleive he wants a Belguim Shepherd! I always thought it was a Beluim Malinous. I think that is how you spell it!

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Oh, Fran, I'm so sorry for your loss. My heart and thoughts are with you. Muggsies will be with my Rosie, Slayer, and Mandy now. RIP sweet Muggsies.

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Keep us posted on Jessy ! My second cousin is going though Chemo too ......no fun !
Yah no what freind, I have been thinking just about myself and I am very sorry about that! I hope that your cousin gets through the cancer as well! We have a very big and loving God, so all should be fine. For your cousin and for my grand son

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How is Muggsies doing by now? I really feel for you. I worry a lot about my Toot getting old. She is 12 and a half now and seems in good health but she has days when I can tell she doesn't feel good. Keep us informed.

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Check back , Carlar . Muggsie is no longer here .

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Check back , Carlar . Muggsie is no longer here .
Huh? What happened?

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Check post #18 .

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Well I know that. I know Muggsie is gone. I've been totally following this thread except I missed the one right before yours which said Muggsie is gone so didn't make the connection. Somehow when I read just your last post that Muggsie is gone, I somehow crossed circuits in my brain and read it like....Fran is gone. I thought you meant that Fran wasn't coming back to the forum. ....Muggsie, as in the owner. I get so confused when people use their pet's names as their names. LOL. Sorry for the confusion.
FRAN...how are you doing?

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I am doing fine! I am just tired, today I was looking at Mugs pic's and he was such an adorable little guy! I wish I could share them with you!
I have one pic when he was 6 months old, and jumped in my daughters pool to come and save me!:yikes: :lol-sign: We all had such a laugh! When he first jumped in, he went too the bottom of the pool.:yikes: This terrified me and all the kids. So everyone started to jump in after him!
Well, Mugs some how found his way back to the top of the water, and doggie paddled right past the kids, right too mom! Once he got there, he latched on to me as if to say! Mom you scared me!
Mugs jumped into the shallow end, which was about 21/2 feet deep. Now if he had jumped into the deep end, that would have been another story! Mugs was a dog, that thought he was a human. Or some times thought that he could fly! He had a gumby excuse me for saying this ASS!
The other one I was looking at has Mugs, laying down beside my grandaughter Moira. She was about 3 weeks old! She was sleeping so soundly, we had the bumpers up so she would not fall! Mugs laid right beside her, and said No passing aloud!:yikes: