Oh God no...

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 I am in shock. I'm having trouble typing.
The boys got out of the yard again....Voodoo busted through the trellis that my husband had just finished fixing and reinforcing yesterday. My husband and I went searching everywhere for them.
My husband found them two blocks down, with a hysterical elderly woman. She was holding an old cat in her arms, and the boys were bouncing around her. He called the boys to him, and they both came right away.
The lady said Voodoo had attacked her cat. :yikes:
Voodoo had the cat by the neck when the lady saw him. She told him to stop it, and Voodoo did. But the cat is quite old, and hubby said it didn't look good. He said the cat was limp in the lady's arms, and its tongue was hanging out. The lady said that Voodoo is vicious. She wants us to pay the vet bills and she never wants to see either of our dogs ever again.
I don't know what to do. Hubby thinks the cat won't survive. Voodoo lives with two cats and has never been aggressive before---we didn't see this coming. Hubby thinks that Voodoo was just trying to play with the cat; he said Voodoo was acting playful when he pulled up.
We can't afford these vet bills. I don't know what will happen to Voodoo if the cat dies.

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Ohh no. I hope everything turns out okay......
Did the lady take the cat to the vet?

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Oh Gempress I'm sorry! I hope the cat is ok. I'm sure Voodoo was only playing with it. (((((((((HUGS))))))).

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She took it to the vet. Hubby gave her our phone number, and we will be footing the vet bill. I don't know how we're going to pay for it, though.

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Oh, I'm so sorry to hear this. Let's just hope that the cat only used 1 of its 9 lives...
((((((hugs)))))))))) Sending good thoughts &/ vibes your way...
Voodoo! Stay in the yard, boy!

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I wish you the best. Sometimes things happen that we just don't expect.
I don't really believe you can be held liable for anymore than the vet bill though. I hope it is not too much. :(
I would do the same thing by paying the vet bill. But keep in the back of your mind.......the cat was out too.

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I dont think you are 100% liable.
Yes, your dog got out, but her cat was out as well.
Plus, your dog was accidently out, she probably ALLOWS her cats out.
I am soo sorry this happened.... I hope everything goes ok... keep use updated.
Elissa

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So sorry this happened do you have something you can auction on ebay to raise funds.... Also you can add electrical to the bottom and top of the trellis and that should stop them as long as it is on.
But i must prepare you for the worse. If the cat dies she may ask the dogs be labeled as dangerous and she may not name the one dog she may name both.
Is their any where they can go for a week or so?
Im sorry but u need to prepare for the worse case.
If this happened to a buyer of mine I would board the dogs until things settle down.
Now that they have gotten out if it happens again the liability doubles.
So if you have to walk them on leash until fencing is secured.
Also if you see other dogs running loose take a pic or better yet video of the.
Because now your dog can get blamed for any cat killings not witnessed by the owners.

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Ouch! That's really sad news....I hope it all works out.
We have a few neighborhood cats that like to roam our backyard....I've often asked myself what will happen if Abby ever catches one of them.
Hang in there Voodoo....

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What an unfortunate situation to be in. I would be extremely cooperative in this situation. I would pay the vet bills and be very apologetic... even though it's not 100% your fault. I hope the cat makes it... and I wish you the best. Keep us updated!

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please PLEASE for the love of everything stop leaving your dogs outside unsupervised.
laws vary place to place- some places will declare a dog vicious for killing another domesticated animal, some places not. i'd check into the laws asap and know what's what.
prey drive outside is different than living with cats. voodoo is a dog bred to hunt, after all.
i hope the kitty makes it. best of luck to all of you.

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Doesn't sound good for the cat by your description, but cats can bounce back. The cat might be more in shock than hurt, so hang in there. Was this on the woman's property or just out on the street?
Just one more excellent argument for indoor cats as well.
I very strongly agree with Melissa, there is nothing gained by pointing to the woman's cat at this point, particularly if the cat was on its own property. I think that would be a huge mistake particularly in view of leash laws for dogs but not cats. Just my two cents. The woman's pet was injured and it's really best to do well by her, which you are doing. Put yourself in her place for a minute and understand that she is upset over her pet, but that doesn't mean she is going to sue you or even imagine that your dogs should be taken from you. I don't even see that as a possibility. It's not like you deliberately loosed your dogs.
I think you are doing the right thing handling it the way you are. It was an accident that your dogs got loose and I'm sure she knows that. It's just that right now she is worried about her cat whom she loves. So she's probably very upset. And so are you.
Hopefully the cat will be ok. That and you paying for the bill will probably calm the woman down with nothing more heard. However, if the cat dies, there really is no legal recourse for her in most states except that it will hurt her heart. The value of dogs and cats is generally placed at the amount paid for them, like property.
I am sorry this happened, but I do not think you need to worry about the future of the dogs as the incident did not involve a human. Please take a deep breath, stuff happens. Pay the bills in any way you can and hopefully all will turn out ok in the end for both you, your dogs, the woman and the cat.
Hopefully, Fluffy will see more good days, as an indoor cat.

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OMG..that's awful. I hope that poor kitty will be alright. I must say that I doubt that Voodoo was trying to play with the cat though.
Your own cats are completely different to Voodoo. The fact that he attacked the old lady's cat doesn't translate into aggression towards your cats.
You may need to have the boys teathered outside from now on or at least find a fool proof way of keeping them in. Now that this has happened once, prey drive can be in "over drive" because the experience was rewarding. His desire to get out will most likely be heightened.
Sorry that this happened....you must be a wreck..:(

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My breed has defense drive and they are very like My Cat - My Couch My car - my sheep etc but they would kill a Cat that was not in the pack.
Its natural dont make him a bad dog they dont make movies of cat vs dog for nothing.
Get a copy of your towns rules and research be informed before anything else happens..

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Now that this has happened once, prey drive can be in "over drive" because the experience was rewarding. His desire to get out will most likely be heightened.
Wow I didn't know that. This doggie novice is really glad she has a Collie. The worst she's done so far is heard a half dozen kids at a BBQ. I think if I had chosen a dog that requires this kind of knowledge I would have been in trouble by now. I can't even begin to tell you how much I have learned on this board.

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I will say this, it is too bad that the dogs got out of your yard! I know that here in Canada the laws are very stiff;
The big major one $5000.00 fine. Dogs labled as vicious. and then the law suit well I hope everything works well for you. I would get one big strong kennel for them.

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Wow I didn't know that. This doggie novice is really glad she has a Collie. The worst she's done so far is heard a half dozen kids at a BBQ. I think if I had chosen a dog that requires this kind of knowledge I would have been in trouble by now. I can't even begin to tell you how much I have learned on this board.
The heightened prey drive could just as easily have happened with my goofy Labradoodle given the same scenario.
Even a sweet little Collie can experience a punch of prey drive. :) ;)
Your dog is adorable by the way!!:D

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I'm so sorry this is happening to you. :(
Sasha lives in our home with seven cats now and has, at times lived with over 10 -- took her to a friend's one day and was leaning against my truck with my back turned to Sasha who was on a leash, didn't think anything of it and before I knew it, she saw a cat scampering across the yard, pulled the leash right out of my hands and near chased the thing up a tree. I am 100% sure she would have laid her mouth on it if she had been able to catch it before it treed itself. :( Because she's a bad catkiller? No, because it's all about prey drive.
I think you're doing the right thing in what you can do as far as paying the bills, etc. I imagine the odds are that this woman hasn't even considered the remote possibility of legal action. I know I certainly wouldn't if I were in her situation.

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Their is a term for dogs not classified as herding dogs thus prey drive is more in them. It is called finishing prey drive and I dont think the above situation applies but even livestock dogs can exhibit this in a HUNTING type of situation. They are then labeled "finishers".

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Thanks DR2little! I adore her and she's working out so well! She ate my sandwich this afternoon while I was on the phone though. She sure does have a prey drive for food that isn't hers.
She does nip at my cats when she gets excited, like she does with me sometimes, when she tries to herd me where she wants me. She tries to herd them and wants to play, but they seem to be getting the best of her most days. She seems to have a healthy respect for the Five Razors, but overall I think she likes them. But she is so big and still a puppy, I could see where she could injur one of them during an exuberant moment, particularly my Roni whom I took in declawed. So I stay watchful, if only because of her size in comparison. Mostly she wants them to play with her and her toys but she never jumps on them, thank God. Mostly, she tries to shove a toy at one of them as a kind of offering, which of course they ignore. I also have two elderly cats whom she doesn't bother, but she is active with the two younger ones. She seems to know the difference.
But I could see how what happened with Gem's dog could happen anywhere.

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I would keep all my options in mind but treat the elderly woman with kindness and respect, and try to keep my own worry about my dogs' fate to myself when speaking to her and others. The likelihood is that the woman will not sue, try to have to dogs put to sleep, labelled dangerous, etc. Most normal people don't want to get all punitive with the law if it can be avoided. If you're apologetic, pay her vet bills and prove to her that this won't happen again (ie, secure the dogs), she'll probably accept the situation as a tragic accident that was your fault (the dog's getting loose, accidental though it was, was your responsibility) but something you're acutely sorry about and have corrected as far as you can.
I would not offer opinions about the dog's intentions, whether you call it 'natural prey drive' or 'just playing,' as that's both irrelevant and intensely painful to the person who owns the victim. Acknowledge what's irrefutably true - you made a mistake, your dogs got loose, they hurt the cat - and make what amends are possible. Remember too that the woman was undoubtedly traumatized by watching that attack, and that her age makes her more vulnerable to the shock and grief of losing a pet. Be very kind, and try not to worry about your own dogs. It's rare for a dog owner to be penalized for hurting another pet.

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Oh, no :( That's awful, I really hope the cat survives. I absolutely agree with casablanca about how to handle it. Years ago a neighbor's dog killed one of my kittens. The people came to "apologize" but instead gave me the usual "I'm sorry, BUT he was just playing, he didn't mean to, etc". It just made things worse. I didn't care about the dog's intentions, it isn't my dog. I cared about my kitten.

Ive been in your shoes too and I know how you feel. I'm glad you are paying the vet bill. I know it wasn't 100% your fault, but as the owner of the dog that badly injured someone else's pet, I think it's the considerate and responsible thing to do.

I would get a tie-out cable for Voodoo TODAY and tie him up every time you need to leave him in the yard. You know now that he will escape, so until you put something up on the fence, stop giving him that chance.

Just as an added precaution I'd put electric wire along the top of your fence. We had to do that for a couple weeks with Dakota, as he'd clear our 6ft fence. It's rather extreme measures and yes it will hurt if they get zapped, but much better to get zapped a few times than get out, imo.

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Be carefull with tie outs if he has this chase drive he could go up a tree or wall and hang himself.....

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Gempress, you're in Texas, right? I wouldn't be too worried about The Horsemen being labeled. It is a good idea to check on the local statutes, but I doubt you'll find anything frightening for this situation.
The cat was probably suffering from shock, which can be touch and go for an elderly cat. I think you are doing the right thing by handling the vet bills for her, and I am terribly sorry her cat is suffering, but sometimes things do happen.
You may want to consider stringing a hot wire above the top of your fence to curb Voodoo's desire to go AWOL.

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I agree with planet molosser about tie-outs. Definitely be careful, make sure the tie-out won't reach over any of the walls in case he decides to make a mad leap for freedom. I don't like leaving dogs tied up unattended but in this case I think it's safer than letting him loose unattended in the insecure yard.

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I'm sorry Gempress. I agree that you probably don't have a lot to worry about liability-wise but you should consider putting an electric wire at the top and bottom of your fence. It's better for them in the long-run. Find out more about what happened. If it was on the street or what. I think it does make a difference if they were in her yard or not.

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Acknowledge what's irrefutably true - you made a mistake, your dogs got loose, they hurt the cat - and make what amends are possible.
Sadly I agree. Ronin has gotten loose once, and thank goodness he ran up to a passerby with a dog and didn't bite... I got lucky, but I understand that I made a mistake by letting him outside in the yard to potty without supervision... and he's got a history of fence jumping, I should have known better.
If I were you, I wouldn't let the boys out in the yard without supervision. I know it can be tough, standing outside with them whil they're playing or doing their business, but it needs to be done. IMO, it's better to be slightly inconvenienced every day than have another escape incident and ending up with two dead dogs.
As for the elderly lady, I'd be verrrrry nice and apologetic - no excuses, no "buts". Try to make her feel comfortable, and she'll be less likely to raise a stink.
I was out at a state park about a month ago, and some guy let his black lab offleash (against park rules). This lab runs straight for Ronin, and the guy says the standard, "Oh don't worry, he won't bite"... I countered with "BUT MINE WILL!!!" and he quickly grabbed his dog. I could have just left it at that, but I went over to the man and apologized for yelling (even though the man and his dog were the ones at fault). He went from being sulky and mad to being a very pleasant man. I introduced Ronin to the man and his family, just so they could see that he wasn't a monster. The situation went from very bad to very pleasant.
Try to see it from the old lady's POV - she probably looked out the window and saw two BIG, unattended loose dogs worrying her little old cat. It was probably very traumatic for her, even if your boys meant no harm.

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Oh no :(
I hope everything turns out ok for all involved :(

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Thanks for the help and ideas, all. I'm feeling a lot better. Voodoo has been in his crate for the remainder of the day. Hubby took down the ruined trellis during lunch. We're putting up iron bar fencing in that gap as soon as we get home from work.
I talked more to hubby about what happened. The lady and one of her neighbors (who was there when it happened) both assured him that Zeus didn't do anything wrong. They said Zeus was just watching Voodoo and crying---it's what he does whenever Voodoo is doing something Zeus knows is wrong.
There were no messages from the lady. I don't know if that's good news or bad news. I was tempted to call around to the local vet clinics, but hubby told me to wait until she contacts us. He said that for all we know, the cat could be fine and she didn't take it to the vet after all. I feel so terrible about her cat. It must be awful for her.
Voodoo has never been a runner, so this really surprised us. Well, we found out why Voodoo went AWOL. The neighbor's stupid dogs were loose tormenting him again. The exact same scenario as his escape yesterday.
I don't think the neighbor will press charges or sue. And Renee, I'm pretty sure you're right about the laws here.
We watched Voodoo like a hawk during lunch. He paid absolutely no attention to our cats. I'm still not going to trust him with the cats until I'm sure this was just an isolated incident.
And regardless of what happens, we are definately going to beef up Voodoo's training. Today I really looked at Voodoo for the first time since we got him. He has a stout build, big head, is nearly as tall as Zeus, and is getting extremely thick and heavy. He broke through that wood like it was nothing. It's hard to think of my little puppy as a potentially intimidating dog--and I think that's part of the problem. I never realized exactly how big he was becoming. Needless to say, I need to be in full control of him at all times.
Here's hoping everything goes well for us. Please keep my little Voodoo (he'll always be my "little" Voodoo) in your prayers.

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im sure everything will be ok, make sure to make a formal apology to the woman, and ensure her this will NOT happen again, invest in some strong fencing to add anywhere the boys can get over (trellis isnt strong enough as youve now found out and some kind of reinforced wire, iron or even BRICK might be the best addition to the perimiter...
by covering the vet bills your showing good will and lots of strong apologizing and reassuring that you wont let it happen again and all should be ok.
No unsupervised loose time in the yard untill the fence is 100% voodoo proof...and at that point even invite the lady over to see that the fence is fully prepared and stronger than ever to reassure her this wont happen again.
Im sorry this happend, but im sure everything will be fine. Just be uber carefull from now on...

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Don't worry, I plan on giving the woman a big apology. And I won't make any excuses. I know it was 100% my fault for leaving Voodoo in the yard unsupervised.

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You are handling this all in a very proactive way (I hate that word, it became a word after somebody made it up).
Sounds like you have a good grip on everything. You may be right, the cat may have just bounced back from the scare. Cats exhibit strange behaviors when they are terrified sometimes. I suspect the cat was just a little shocky. I do hope she vetted it but that would be her choice. For all we know, since cats all do their own thing, the cat may be a 'ragdoll' in moms arms and like to hang her tongue out. I don't mean to be flippant, but I've seen stranger behaviors.
Let's hope no news is GOOD news. (((((to you)))))

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buster is majorley cat aggresive outside the yard. but he is fine with panda. would never hurt him... until another dog starts then they get this pack mentality and i slap his nose to get him to snap out of it.

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Oh my God, I'm so sorry!! I hope the cat makes it . . . I hope Voodoo doesn't get into trouble . . . :( :( :(
Unfortunately, it's very possible he was acting playful as he attacked the cat . . . Chasing a smaller animal is often a happy, exciting things for dogs. :( I came home one day to find Ebony joyously throwing around baby birds.
I'm saying a prayer for you, Voodoo, and the cat!

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Glad you are feeling better, Gemp, and I hope the iron bars will keep him in.

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I am so sorry, Gemp.
I hope everything turns out well.. the cat lives, Voodoo learns....

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Ohhh Gem!!! I am SOOO sorry!!!!! :( Glad you are feeling better though!!!! :)
I hope everything works out for you guys for the best!!!! :)

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The rod-iron fence is going up in the gap as I type this. We were debating about wood, but decided it's better to be safe than sorry.
Still no call from the poor lady. I hope that means her cat was ok and didn't have to go to the vet after all. This wait is just killing me.

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Oh no!!!
Is it too late to get hubby to tilt the iron bars in 45 degrees so that it looks something like this:
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but slightly more inward, so that he has no purchase at all? Ad I do agree with the hot wire on both top and bottom. I just watched a dog climb out of a smooth vertical bar/glass block with a PVC pipe "jumper" cover Saturday, so I don't underestimate the ingenuity of any dog to get out when it really really wants to.
I would also, without mentioning the cats so that it doesn't look like you're trying to pass the buck, go talk to the idiot neighbors AGAIN about their loose dogs. If anything, wait for those dogs to come by and start pelting rocks at them. I don't agree with or like deliberate "abuse" like this, but it will either get the message across to either the dogs (dangerous house!) or the owners (crazy owners!) that this is not a house to mess with.

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Call your local AC & find out about the leash law. Where I live, the leash law applies to dogs AND cats. IMO, her cat had no business being outside of the house without being on a leash anymore than your dog. An apology is nice, but I wouldn't pay the vet bills unless I fought the case & lost. Maybe next time she'll think twice about letting her cat roam outside to pee/poop & scratch up people's cars & killing the local squirrels & birds.

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There is no leash law in my city. My hubby told me that the incident happened in one of the lady's neighbor's yards.
I'm so worried. I wish I would hear something one way or the other.

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I doubt you'll get in trouble by the authorities. You're paying the vet bill. You're appologizing. You're fixing the fence. It was a freak accident that your dogs got out. It is natural for a dog to chase and sometimes kill a cat because it is prey to the dog. And like it was said, you'll have to really make sure they can't get out again. One big reinforcement is all it takes to cause the dogs to really be "into" this sport.
I'm so sorry this happened and I hope that cat is OK. There's not much you can do by worrying.
I already wrote on your other post about you being so stressed so I won't repeat myself on this one. But sometimes taking the bull by the horns helps.

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Now that this has happened once, prey drive can be in "over drive" because the experience was rewarding.
This is very true. However, it CAN transfer to your own cats. All it takes is one time for your cat to dart in front of Voodoo the wrong way for his prey drive to kick in, and then you've got another dead cat.
It does happen. Please don't trust him with your cats unsupervised. He's had a very rewarding experience of killing prey. He may be fine with your cats forever. Or, he may be fine untill he isn't.
I would hate to see a post on here about how he killed your cat out of the blue a few months or weeks down the road and you didn't expect it.
What he did to the other cat is your warning. You may not get another one.
I had a client once with a herding dog that killed chickens before she got him. He lived with her cats in the house for four years before he killed one. You never know what will set them off when you have a dog with high prey drive and has already experienced a kill. The cat who was a packmate yesterday, may be dinner tonight.

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Echoing what everybody else is saying. Both Voodoo and the cat are in my thoughts.
I live outside city limits and I leave my cat outside when she wants out, and I will leave the dogs out, individually mind you, on the runner and the neighbors have cats as well. Actually I think Bailey is the reason Nutnut disapeared.
Stay calm.

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I'm very sorry that this happened but Voodoo really needs some extensive training. This isn't the first incident that is rather negative, I know it wont be the last.

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It was a freak accident that your dogs got out.
not really. the dogs have proven multiple times that they can get out. they proved LAST NIGHT that they can get out. it wasn't a freak accident at this point. if they'd never gotten out before, you can point to freak accident. at this point, you have to point elsewhere.

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I would seriously consider getting an electric fence. Works both ways. Keeps dogs in and keeps other kritters out.
The type of electric fence I am talking about is like for a pasture. They make units that are for dogs so they wont shock the heck outta em. I have one around my fence for two reasons. Keep dogs in and keep dogs out.
Im sorry!! Wish I had a majic wand to make it better

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Gem, any word this morning on the cat? I hope everything works out for you.

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check your house insurance policy they may cover this

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No news this morning. Hubby and I are going over to the lady's house this evening. The ironwork is holding up very well. We tested it several times, and Voodoo cannot get out. Just to be sure, we're running a hot wire on the top of the fence today.
Elegy, I know exactly what you're saying. I agree that it is my fault that Voodoo got out. But Sunday was actually the first time Voodoo had broken through the fence. We *thought* we had it fixed within 30 minutes of it happening: we repaired the fencing and added extra reinforcement. He proved us wrong on Monday, so we put up iron bars that evening.
I guess I'm just trying to say that we didn't ignore the problem. It's not like we just shrugged our shoulders and let it go. We have spent a lot of time and money trying to fix this. It just wasn't enough.
Voodoo definately needs more training. I'm going to see to that. But honestly, I'm not quite sure what training would have done to curb this incident. He got out because the neighbor's dogs were tormenting him. Normally he wouldn't even attempt to get over the fence. He came the moment he was called and stopped the first time he was told. Voodoo listened. It's not Voodoo's fault: it's mine because the fence didn't keep him in the yard.

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I think stopping by her home is a very honorable thing to do. She probably won't be very friendly but I'm not surprised that this won't stop you from doing it. Good for you!
Listen, GEMP, I don't know you personally, but as an outside observer here I would have to say you are doing everything possible to prevent this kind of thing from happening again. Better yet, you have the heart to feel concern for that woman and her cat. This is far more than I have seen others do in similar circumstances, so the last thing you need to do is beat up on yourself even a little bit. You obviously have a heart, honor and integrity.
I'm really hoping that the lady AND her cat are there tonight, both a little shaken for the experience, but both doing fine.

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Let us know !!

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Aww Gemp Im sorry!!! Give Vodoo lots of love from me. And kudos to you for doing everything you can to make it right. :)

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I just got a call from the lady about her cat.
First the bad news. The cat is at the vet with spinal fractures. It turns out that BOTH boys were mauling the cat. She said at one point, Voodoo had it by the front and Zeus by the hind end, and they were twisting and turning the cat between them. Poor thing. I have no idea how much this is going to cost us. I hope the vet is willing to work out a payment plan.
Now the good news. The lady was so sweet and understanding about the whole thing. She said the boys came prancing and playing through her yard. Her cat saw the dogs, hissed and took off running. She said that the dogs were probably turned on the by strange cat running from them. As she said, "It's just one of those things": she knows the incident was an accident and understands. She also said my hubby told her we had cats at home (and that my parents have a cat, too), and she understands how we didn't expect the boys to do such a thing. And while the fractures sound bad, the vet is cautiously optomistic about the cat's recovery.
The lady said she knows the boys are not vicious. She went through great pains to reassure me that the dogs did not act the slightest bit aggressive to either her or the neighbor who was helping her. She even said that in retrospect, she thought it was quite surprising: at one point, she grabbed Voodoo by the collar and was hitting him over the head with all her strength. I can't say I blame her for that.
Well, it's a load off my chest that the incident is settled. The vet expenses have me worried, especially since we're so low on money it's not even funny. But having looked at my local animal laws, I know it could have been MUCH worse.

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Whew! I am sure in many ways you're relieved. But yes....the poor kitty. And the vet bills. Well, the vet just may have to take payments every month. I'm glad the lady had the mind set that she did. I do hope the kitty doesn't have permanent problems from the injury.

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Cats can be resilient little creatures - probably tougher pound for pound than just about anything. Hopefully this one will be! It's a relief to know that she's being so rational and understanding about it all. :)
Maybe you could take her one of your most excellent dinners :)

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Whew, I've been following this thread and am relieved to hear the lady was so understanding. Sorry about the vet bill, but if the vet won't take payments, maybe the cat's owner can pay the bill, and you could pay her back gradually...

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Listen, let me tell you about cats. My cat Giz, at age 19, jumped off the kitchen counter and caught his foot in the open drawer handle, where he hung by his leg. His foot was broken in every imaginable place. He not only recovered but he recovered in record time. During that time he hopped on beds, climbed stairs and couldn't have cared less that he was on three legs doing it. Furthermore, he lived to age 21 with nary a limp. Cats, when they love life, are huge fighters for it. If the vet is cautiously optimistic, overall I would say the cat will recover and her owner probably feels very good about that. Not too sure the bill won't create a small coronary though.

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Wow phew this was like waiting for the part 2 of a story you want to watch.
very happy this sounds like it is going to work out.

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i am glad to hear the lady acted in such a civil manner.
I hope the vet is able to work with you on the money issue.
Keep us updated on the cats condition.
Elissa

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I'm so glad the lady was so understanding ((((HUGS)))) it myst be very hard to dela with on your part.

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I'm so glad the lady was understanding, but that poor cat . . . :(
To echo what silverpawz said, I wouldn't leave the boys alone with your cats for a long time . . . Hopefully they'll forget how much fun they had. (To be honest, if it were my dog I would probably never trust him alone with a cat again, but I'm very paranoid about my cats. It's just one of those things where you have to carefully assess the risk.)
Regarding the vet bill, is there anything you can sell on eBay? Or does the vet accept payment plans?

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Glad she was so understanding too. I feel bads for the cat but I agree that those things happen :( Plus it's a bit her fault too for having the cat outside, it could have happened with other animals really (and that's coming from someone who has outdoor cats). Your boys were probably just very excited and were not very careful... Do you know if they seemed agressive towards the cat or just seemed to play?
I hope the cat will recover fast and you won't end up paying too much :(

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sounds like you've done everything you can to make the situation right :) maybe if the vet won't let you do payments you could make a deal with the lady where you pay half of it and she pays half and you slowly pay her back the half she paid. atleast that way she knows you are putting money toward her cat and aren't just using an excuse to get her to pay the vet bill and then not pay it.

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Holly moly here in Sudbury, they would have had the dog quaranteened I'm sure. A few weeks ago, a bull terrier mix on the loose, got a hold of a small pomeranian. He killed it. The pom was on the leash with the owner waiting for the kids to get on the school bus when this happened. the dog was quaranteened then was pronounced dangerous and has to be museled.
Good luck Hon I know I would hate to go through what your going through.

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I am glad that the cat is alive, and I hope the vet bills won't be too horrible.
Echo what other people have said about the resiliency of cats. My vet believes RJ was bitten by a snake or stung by a scorpion (very unlike RJ, since he has always instinctively known what creatures to avoid) A small hole was finally found in his leg, and a tiny scab where another hole may have been. Even a tiny snakebite would've killed Ripley, but RJ shrugged it off. His leg hurt and he was sick for 2 days, then 100% back to normal. Somehow, cats can bounce back from injuries at an incredible rate.
I am glad she was so understanding.

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I say that lady needs a rack of "OMG thank you for being so nice!" ribs.
I hope the cat recovers!!

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I say that lady needs a rack of "OMG thank you for being so nice!" ribs.
BIG ECHO! We're going to send her some flowers.
Good news! I just heard from the lady. The vet said her cat will be fine. The cat will be at the clinic until Thursday. In her words, "The vet said he may not get around quite as well as he used to, but he'll be fine."
That makes me feel a lot better. At least the cat will be ok. He may have used up one or two of his nine lives, though.

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That's awesome! :hail: :hail:

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Another cat on prednisone strikes again. I am glad that the cat will be ok, particularly because you all know i am a cat lover to the max. But i am particularly impressed that you handled it in such a fine way. As a cat owner, I say Thank You. Way to go Gemp! Get some premium catnip for the little trooper. I bet the owner will really like that.

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Whew... glad to hear it. I hope that the vet bills won't be too costly now, but I'm so glad the lady was understanding!
...now I'm hungry for "I'm relieved" ribs :lol-sign:

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Ok no more more of this. Is there a rib recipe that should be shared?????????

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Wow that's good news! I'm happy everything went as smooth as it could.

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Sorry Gem, I just read this thread. A very stressful situation for sure. I am glad to hear the cat will be ok, and the lady was nice about it. I do think the flowers are a lovely gesture.
Hopefully the fence is Voodoo proof now.

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*SIGH*....wait I think I need another one.....*SIGH* :p :D
THAT IS GREAT GREAT GREAT NEWS!!!!!! :D
YEAH!!!!
Hope the costs are not too much!!! :)

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Hey what a scary story! You must have just about went in your pants?
I know I would have. Well since I am new, and everything, I just need too know are there any nicer, topic's out there?
What about that Doberman Story, that's locked, everyone was so mean, to each other there. Did I do something wrong but signing up here?
I want too meet nice people, and learn new things, not read about scary stuff.
Please ease my mind!

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Hey what a scary story! You must have just about went in your pants?
I know I would have. Well since I am new, and everything, I just need too know are there any nicer, topic's out there?
What about that Doberman Story, that's locked, everyone was so mean, to each other there. Did I do something wrong but signing up here?
I want too meet nice people, and learn new things, not read about scary stuff.
Please ease my mind!
YES, IMO most all the people on here are nice and helpful!!! You just ave to get to know us!!! :D
BTW, there are PLENTY nicer topics, about here!!!!

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Well I'm fairly new myself, what I noticed is there is a low tolerance for BS, which does ease my mind, since I am here to learn about my dog and I would prefer to learn correct things. Sometimes they argue the finer points of an issue, such as training, and I think that's great because I get to see all sides of the issue and maybe fine tune my own decisions. Also there is passion. Passion is always a good thing when it comes to something I care about.
I kind of figure that I'm safe since I don't know enough about dogs to BS anybody. I'm sure you fall into the same category so relax.

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YES, IMO most all the people on here are nice and helpful!!! You just ave to get to know us!!! :D
BTW, there are PLENTY nicer topics, about here!!!!
Thank you I really hope that I don't run into any of that stuff, that people are talking about.
I am kinda young and I really a shy kinda person, so this is a place I would like to come and learn.
Not to hear all this bad stuff, and see how people hurt each other, that was really mean of everyone to do. I see that out in the real world, and I want a place I can go with out seeing that stuff again. I mean the mean stuff on the Doberman post. That was crazy and hurtful. not nice on anyones part.
I will try this forum out, and if I don't like it I will leave, I need to see nice clean stuff about dogs, and people not crazy stuff like these two posts, To up setting for me

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It only takes once or twice for them to test the fence, but keep in mind that when they do you will hear it, and it will upset you. It might not, but just a fair warning, i want you to prepare yourself. i don't want it to come as a "shock" to you like it did to me. i thought it was going to be a light shock, just a zap to get him to go back, well it made him go back alright. He's on an invisible fence where in the training you are supposed to let him feel the correction. Here's a link:
http://www.innotek.net/contain.shtml
We were on that stage and well... you know the rest.

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As a request from Gempress herself, I"m going to lock this thread since it's getting brought up constantly for the wrong reasons.