Incident on Redcar beach this morning-dogs/horse - Page 5

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Yes Im surprised the dog owners let their dogs off lead after the first incident.... kinda dumb

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Originally Posted by Greyhawk Even if the the horse's owner was being inconsiderate I am appauled but the stupidity of dogs owners - IMO if they have no control over their dogs then they should not be off lead in the first place! Certainly not for a second time What if they had panicked the horse and it had bolted? What if it had fallen and taken the trap with it? It is such a shame that some people have no consideration for others I'm glad somebody noticed that! There was nothing worse for us on horseback when you're on a fired up horse champing at the bit to have a good gallop and some stupid dog comes running over to you, miles away from it's owner who is then seen running along the beach screaming out for it to come back! The beach is a great big wide open expanse of land, and if you haven't got a good recall on your dog, you could well lose it. The dogs I've seen down there, frightened out of their wits coz they've lost their Mum and the landscape all looks the same to them they just don't know where to run, it's really incredible that people can let them off in a place like this to me if they're the type of dog that likes to run off! Then you'd get the other side of the coin, with the responsible ones calling their dogs to them, holding them by the collar, smiling over at us, as if to say, it's ok you can go on now! It's mindless sometimes imo!

All horses are frightened, they're predators, and it's only the competence of the person on board as to whether the horse will bolt or not when a dog comes bounding over to them. They don't like dogs anywhere near their heels, they are flight animals, so they need their legs to get away, and that's the reason why barking, snapping dogs around their heels could cause horrendous accidents! It really doesn't bear thinking about if your dog is likely to chase after a horse, best to be safe and keep it on a lead if there's horses about in a wide open space like the beach imo.

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Originally Posted by Helena54 I'm glad somebody noticed that! There was nothing worse for us on horseback when you're on a fired up horse champing at the bit to have a good gallop and some stupid dog comes running over to you, miles away from it's owner who is then seen running along the beach screaming out for it to come back! The beach is a great big wide open expanse of land, and if you haven't got a good recall on your dog, you could well lose it. The dogs I've seen down there, frightened out of their wits coz they've lost their Mum and the landscape all looks the same to them they just don't know where to run, it's really incredible that people can let them off in a place like this to me if they're the type of dog that likes to run off! Then you'd get the other side of the coin, with the responsible ones calling their dogs to them, holding them by the collar, smiling over at us, as if to say, it's ok you can go on now! It's mindless sometimes imo!

All horses are frightened, they're predators, and it's only the competence of the person on board as to whether the horse will bolt or not when a dog comes bounding over to them. They don't like dogs anywhere near their heels, they are flight animals, so they need their legs to get away, and that's the reason why barking, snapping dogs around their heels could cause horrendous accidents! It really doesn't bear thinking about if your dog is likely to chase after a horse, best to be safe and keep it on a lead if there's horses about in a wide open space like the beach imo. We always keep a hold of Cassie when the horses go by. I don't think she'd run after them but she is fascinated by them so I'd rather have hold of her if they're too close. That's as much for her safety as well. One kick from a horse would kill her and I'd never forgive myself. Always err on the side of caution. Most of the horsey people are great and say thanks when they see us holding on to her. There's always one who's an a**e though. I've also had my concerns with the lady with the NI's before as I worry that she sometimes doesn't seem to be in control

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That's the point Jackie isn't it, if you value your dog's safety, you watch out for it with any possible perils around, it's pure common sense to take a hold of your dog in situations like this. We have a string of 60 racehorses who come across our village green when I'm up there in the morning at 7 am. They all walk quietly, some are prancing around, so the first thing I do is put the dogs on their leads and get out of their way, for both their safety and all those horses too. All hell would break loose if one of my dogs frightened even one of them, coz it wouldn't take much to scatter the lot of them as they were all fired up ready for their morning run on the gallops

Thank goodness we don't have that woman with her Ni's up there in the mornings then!

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Seems to me like a simple case of consideration... from everyone. The NI owner sounds like a bit of a beaut... but both parties could and should be considerate being as both are in a public place

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Originally Posted by Helena54 That's the point Jackie isn't it, if you value your dog's safety, you watch out for it with any possible perils around, it's pure common sense to take a hold of your dog in situations like this. We have a string of 60 racehorses who come across our village green when I'm up there in the morning at 7 am. They all walk quietly, some are prancing around, so the first thing I do is put the dogs on their leads and get out of their way, for both their safety and all those horses too. All hell would break loose if one of my dogs frightened even one of them, coz it wouldn't take much to scatter the lot of them as they were all fired up ready for their morning run on the gallops

Thank goodness we don't have that woman with her Ni's up there in the mornings then! We get the racehorses being excercised on the beach too and have to take care when they're about.

Originally Posted by IanTaylor Seems to me like a simple case of consideration... from everyone. The NI owner sounds like a bit of a beaut... but both parties could and should be considerate being as both are in a public place Absolutely right there.

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I agree with what most others have said. The dog owner was being incredibly irresponsible, allowing their dogs off lead for a second time. I would have been absolutely fuming if I had been riding the horse. Obviously horse riders should also have consideration for off lead dogs also, but if you don't have a good recall then the dog shouldn't be off lead IMO.

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ohhhh but people are so quick to call people stupid without even knowing them *shakes head* I don't like that but I think everyone is stupid and should stay indoors when I want to be outside. I get sick of treading on eggshells for everyone elses wants and needs and still end up in the wrong at times!

The NI/GSD owner took a bad risk but she at least sounds like someone who my dogs could have a good old fashioned play with - sounds like her dogs would be up for it too.

I'm all for responsibility but if this horse dude is up on the beach alot why should everyone have to dance to his tune? and another thing being able to control your dog is paramount - everyone agrees on that...But people also need to be incontrol of the horse too...It is as much their duty to see that their horse isn't to easily spooked in these type of situations as it is the dog owners responsibilty to keep them from getting over excited.

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Sorry ...I disagree! If an owner does not have 100% recall the dog should be on the lead unless in a safe enclosed area.Not only di this idiot put his dogs in danger but also the horse and its driver!!! Irresponsible!

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I really feel bad for the horse- it must have terrified being chased by a pack of 5 dogs . It was harnessed so couldn't rear or kick. The dogs chased, the dog owners got their own back- let the dogs off lead again after the first incident . As Jackie has said the owner was fully aware that he dogs would chase the horses and yet let her pack do it.