To breed or not to breed? - Page 3

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Originally Posted by Helena54 I have nothing against the proper breeders, i.e. the ones registered with the Kennel Club who have proper facilities to do this, and the time and money

I am definitely against the breeders who just breed their own dogs, usually living in a council house, with no facilities whatsoever to breed them, no time and funds to do the job properly all done to make a quick buck! It infuriates me! Then they put an ad in the local free paper coz it's cheap and don't give a hoot who comes to buy them either! This gets right up my nose!
oh yeah i know what you mean helena

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I know how much you care about your dogs Steph, i remember clearly the day you came for Selene and brought all of your other dogs with you they are lovely You are right that it is very hard starting out especially when you are trying to do everything just right and getting the right advice from breeders, as you don,t want to make mistakes. You are doing the right thing Steph and i am always there for you

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Originally Posted by Louie I know how much you care about your dogs Steph, i remember clearly the day you came for Selene and brought all of your other dogs with you they are lovely You are right that it is very hard starting out especially when you are trying to do everything just right and getting the right advice from breeders, as you don,t want to make mistakes. You are doing the right thing Steph and i am always there for you
i know you are louie you have helped me out alot, its a shame you dont breed cavaliers too i would be ok then
You are the type of breeder that breeders should be you are always there for people.

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not but I do ........ you know where I am

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Originally Posted by Inca not but I do ........ you know where I am thanks inca, i was thinking of PM eraze and asking about doing a section just on breeding so then when i have or others have questions its easy to go there than to post in here and it gets lost.

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I don't understand how anyone can be 100% against or 100% for. Surely it is a matter of choice and personal situations. I would say that most people feel for the poor dogs who don't have homes but cannot, for whatever reason, home a dog themselves. I have tried to adopt a rescue dog in the past, but couldn't find any that were ok to have with small children. Even if I had found a dog, what are the chances of it being the right dog for our home and lifestyle?

When we decided that the time was right to get a dog, I did hours of research into which breed is right for us and which breed would be happy with our lifestyle. I spent hours on the internet and we went to Discover Dogs at Earls Court to see the breeds we had shortlisted. Then I spent hours paying particular attention to the breed we had chosen. Luckily for me, two breeders I had most interest in came together to produce a litter and I am taking little Ed home in February. Thanks Inca... love you.

As a first-time owner, I have had to do this much research in order to make the best decision. I don't think that I could home a rescue dog.

When I am a grown up (I am only 33) and my kids are teens/adults, I may well consider getting a rescue dog. At the moment, I only know what I have read or heard - I have no first-hand experience. I believe that most rescue dogs need someone with a bit more knowledge and understanding.

Bad owners are the pits as are bad breeders. Research is the key I think.

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The issue is pretty clear in my mind
.. I am against bad breeders who breed for the wrong reasons previously stated,
.. I am in favour of good breeders who breed for the right reasons also previously stated.

My next dog will be another puppy not a rescue, I prefer a puppy to an older dog, one that I can train myself that comes from health tested sound stock.

Not many of my chosen breed go into rescues, genuine cases go to the breed rescue and are snapped up pretty quickly.
I can go to a certain rescue where there are a number of my breed, they are in the main ex puppy farm stock discarded when past their breeding best. Many have health and behavioural problems due to poor diet, being bred from too many times and in some cases kept in solitary confinement un- socialised and fearful.

If I were rich and could afford many dogs I would be happy to take on these rescue dogs, though sadly in so doing I am perpetuating the trade as their place will be taken by others, but at least these poor things would have a happy end to their sad lives. I am not rich and need a dog that fits my lifestyle and one that I can take to work with me.


So yes I am for some breeding so people can buy healthy puppies true to type of their chosen breed and it is up to me to do my homework and seek out a good breeder, not give my trade to those who breed for the wrong reasons.

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originally posted by Minihaha

.. I am against bad breeders who breed for the wrong reasons previously stated,
.. I am in favour of good breeders who breed for the right reasons.
I agree with this completely.

I would also like to see more regulations in place - like licences that you have to apply for before being allowed an animal as a pet. The money raised from these licences to go into either animal welfare or regulating the licences. I also think that all pets should be neutered only approved breeders would be allowed to have an un-neutered animal.

I know this sounds a bit crazy but in my head it is the only way I can see to stop the problem of so many un-wanted animals and badly bred dogs.

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I am in no way against breeding - as of course I wouldnt want to see any actual breeds lost through no breeding at all. However I think I am with Emm - I think that all pet dogs should be neutered and only registered and regularly checked breeders should be allowed to breed.

I applaud any breeder that knows where ALL their pups are - I think thats fantastic - however that makes you a good breeder - I dont have a problem with good breeders - - just as you Good breeders will feel that you are let down by the BAd breeders who make it harder for everyone else

I think perhaps i have come across as havign a go at breeders on this board - I AM NOT - however just as you guys are good breeders you have to accept that there are a lot of bad ones and that many breeders DO NOT accept responisbility for their offspring ( there has been stories posted on this board where this has been the case ). So Yes i am all for rescue - Yes I do see the bad side of unwanted pups - and yes i would choose a rescue over a pup time and time again. Its like anything else there are always going to be good and bad - sadly though particularly with my breed there are a LOT of bad and this creates the rescue problems we face.

I do have a problem with people breeding staffy crosses, rottie x's , gsd x's etc etc - with no regard to where these dogs end up cos its just not necessary - this is the needless breeding I would like to see an end to.

Dont get me wrong - I lurve puppies just as the next person and if you have homes for everyone of those pups ( before you breed) then thats wonderful and well done for being a responsible breeder - but sorry purposeful or an accidental breeding of two pet dogs is in my opinion now completely avoidable and thats where I think I draw my invisible acceptance line !

I would also point out that many people dont think they could cope with a rescue dog - however Bruno is my first dog - he is dog aggressive, a real handful and I hgad a two week period to make up my mind whether I wanted to keep him - within about 2 hrs i knew he was there to stay and there is no way I would have given him back. A rescue dog in my opinion is sometimes easier than a pup cos you dont normally have houstraining etc etc =you just have to realise that they might be more set in their ways - its a bigger challenge - but hey i also feel for me it was a bigger reward.

My next dog would always be a rescue.
Dani

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A rescue dog in my opinion is sometimes easier than a pup cos you dont normally have houstraining

with any dog you only get back what you put in ...pups are hard work your right but the rewards are all yours